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Old 10-14-2012, 02:12 PM   #1
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Rivet spacing

I know someone has the answer to this as a lot of you guys have done this. My window skins need more rivits what is the ideal spacing with out over doing it and not to under do it?

Im going to use 1/4" rivits.

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Old 10-15-2012, 12:48 PM   #2
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Re: Rivit spacing

What do you have currently as spacing between rivets and what gauge sheet metal is being used? Are your skins smaller sections or larger sections (covering one or more windows per section)?

Personally I do not think you will have much of a problem with overdoing the rivets. As long as they are not buttoned right up next to one another (or spaced far to apart) you should be fine. Even on my bus there are seams where the rivets are spaced at roughly ~1" apart and at times spaced upwards of 2-3" or more. It all depends really on the gauge of the skins themselves, what stresses they will be expecting to take on those parts of the bus and how/where they are mounted structurally to the bus itself. To many rivets in metal is a kin to putting to many nails in a 2x4, rendering the structural strength of the material to be weaker. Too many is overkill as you stated... just as not enough will lack in structural strength.

Edit: You may notice that where the seams and edges overlap/end that there are more rivets as opposed to the number of rivets in places they attach off of the edges (centrally located within a sheet for example). I am not a professional metal worker, and I assume you have the understanding of what I said earlier in my reply. Perhaps others will chime in as I do not see a consensus as I look into other threads of those who have done the same kind of thing. It seems to be one of those tidbits people leave out.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:09 PM   #3
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Re: Rivit spacing

I think the skin is probably 16 or 18 ga steel so its held on with probably 3-4 rivits currently. So I was thinking your spacing of 2-3 inches will be fine. I know when I add some square tubing ill have to rivit them there also. So your info helps. I have a bad problem of over doing it so Im trying not to here.
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Its an old joke but I can't resist. drill and fill as many rivit holes as you can---toilet paper never tears on the dotted line.
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I have a bad problem of over doing it
As do I... even with replies.

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Its an old joke but I can't resist. drill and fill as many rivit holes as you can---toilet paper never tears on the dotted line.
That's the best advice. Like, ever. I'd simply fill rivets every inch or two and call it good.
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Re: Rivit spacing

Thats my plan.


Thanks for the input. I have ordered 250 rivits and will go get a rivit gun from Harbor freight and some good drill bits and get after it.


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Re: Rivit spacing

Looking closer at my bus this afternoon, it looks like we ran the rivets about every 1-2 inches. We spent the money for a pneumatic rivet gun. What a life saver that was.
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Re: Rivit spacing

Yes I am going to pick up a pneumatic one this friday from harbor frieght. I have heard that a lot about them being life savers.
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I was just kidding--don't over do it on the rivits. If you need extra support try a backing plate and/or zig zag the rivit pattern to incorporate a greater surface area. Jack
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Re: Rivit spacing

Anyone use this rivet gun from harbor freight. I know they are not the best in the world. Its 69.00

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...ter-98898.html


I got a 20% off coupon so that will help a little. It only has a 90 day warranty and I will get a 1 or 2 yr extension cause Im sure it will break sooner or later.

Any thoughts. I know somethings are ok there and others are junk.


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