Roof raise thoughts

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Sleddgracer

you have condemned roof raises in your comments

Where did I say people should not do a roof raise? I assume that's what you mean by "condemned" since I never used that word.

[Sleddgracer]

Originally Posted by musigenesis

Where did I say people should not do a roof raise? I assume that's what you mean by "condemned" since I never used that word.

maybe you didn't say exactly that in so many words, you just advised people not to ride in them - that's a strong condemnation in it's own right

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Sleddgracer

maybe you didn't say exactly that in so many words, you just advised people not to ride in them - that's a strong condemnation in it's own right

Nobody should be riding in the back of a skoolie (raised or un-raised) without properly-attached seats and belts anyway, which almost nobody in the skoolie world actually has (also not having kitchen knives held up with magnets might help survivability). So the issue of whether you should ride around in the back of a raised skoolie is kind of moot anyway.

The subject of this thread was "Roof raise thoughts" which is the only reason I contributed in the first place. Lesson learned.

[Sleddgracer]

Originally Posted by musigenesis

Nobody should be riding in the back of a skoolie (raised or un-raised) without properly-attached seats and belts anyway, which almost nobody in the skoolie world actually has (also not having kitchen knives held up with magnets might help survivability). So the issue of whether you should ride around in the back of a raised skoolie is kind of moot anyway.

The subject of this thread was "Roof raise thoughts" which is the only reason I contributed in the first place. Lesson learned.

in Canada it is illegal to ride in any vehicle without wearing properly installed seatbelts

I published a weekly news paper for several years, and it took me the first edition to understand that the written word comes off much stronger than the spoken word, that accuracy in the written word is much more important than the spoken word - in the written word you can't see the nuances that a face communicates, the body language, or the twinkle in the eyes of the writer, so the reader has to blindly interpret what the writer means

[o1marc]

Originally Posted by musigenesis

I thought I was clear about this but I guess not. In the absence of an accident where the bus rolls over, pretty much any roof raise method will hold together (although I have seen a few that seem like they'll start to break apart after a couple hundred miles of driving). When I talk about "prone to fail" I mean prone to fail in the case of a rollover accident.

Do you have any data at all to back up your theory? Examples? From the sound of it I would not build a skoolie if I was you, because when you roll your unraised bus, which it seems you intend to do, everything inside is going to be trashed anyways.

[Brad_SwiftFur]

Originally Posted by o1marc

I wonder how accurate their statement of "No 2 Bluebirds are the same" is? Surely a school buying a fleet of buses isn't going to get 20 buses that are all different.

I think what they mean is that all their school buses are built to spec and to order, not just a few "off the shelf" models.

[kidharris]

I read somewhere once that the Feds require a schoolbus to be able to support 1.5 times their weight in a rollover.

[HazMatt]

Was that static weight, or calculated from kinetic and inertial forces at a given velocity?
Unlikely there have been any subsidized studies related to the torsional and shear stresses on after market raises...

[2kool4skool]

More thought food

[HazMatt]

Ok, that's it,
I'm baling out!!!

[PNW_Steve]

Originally Posted by HazMatt

Ok, that's it,
I'm baling out!!!

Was that the straw that broke the camels back?

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by 2kool4skool

More thought food

I've seen enough of them to know that a bus won't fall apart if you cut a few ribs!

[HazMatt]

LOL
That is WAY more than a singular straw, my friend.

Originally Posted by PNW_Steve

Was that the straw that broke the camels back?

I have had to identify, itemize, log, and COC countless tons (Chose your particular favorite: Short, Long, or Metric... Been there, done that, incinerated the tee shirts) of chemical hazmat. No problemo, negative perspiration.
Bio waste, on the other hand (despite how that may sound like wiping and missing with one's dumb hand), is tantamount to a fart on an elevator.
Unless it's mine, I'd rather not risk inhaling it...

[kidharris]

Originally Posted by HazMatt

LOL
That is WAY more than a singular straw, my friend.I have had to identify, itemize, log, and COC countless tons (Chose your particular favorite: Short, Long, or Metric... Been there, done that, incinerated the tee shirts) of chemical hazmat. No problemo, negative perspiration.
Bio waste, on the other hand (despite how that may sound like wiping and missing with one's dumb hand), is tantamount to a fart on an elevator.
Unless it's mine, I'd rather not risk inhaling it...

Could you be a little more specific?

[HazMatt]

ummm... Nope