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Old 03-15-2016, 10:45 PM   #1
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Short Bus shortening for towing 5th

So I had an idea which some on here have already done. Buy a short bus (aka F450 or similar), remove all the rivets and pull the rear cap off, cut off the appropriate amount of body to shorten it, and replace the rear cap. Finish the inside with nice captains chairs, seats, etc for comfort. Build a bed on the back or install a dually pickup bed, and put in a 5th wheel hitch. All could be performed for a fraction of the cost of a stock F450 truck with the same comfort and towing capacity. Then use said truck to haul a 5th wheel camper.
After my brilliant idea I did some quick square rooting in my head and determined that for the cost of the F450 build (let's estimate $7k total) + the cost of a used 5th wheel camper (let's go with $25k), you would be much better off (and less cost) by purchasing a regular skoolie and converting it to an RV, and have lots of money left to use for traveling.
So much for my "aha" moment!
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:56 PM   #2
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Still not a bad idea. I had almost the same idea, but using a long bus. Basically shorten the frame so the fifth wheel could sit over the axle.
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:33 AM   #3
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A quick search on Google indicates that you aren't alone in this thought!

I did an image search for "school bus 5th wheel". There are a couple out there.



Or on the inverted side of things:
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:35 AM   #4
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I would guess that the first one would be terrifying to drive when not loaded. I could imagine it toppling head over heels if the brakes were applied too abruptly!
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Old 03-16-2016, 10:32 AM   #5
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I would guess that the first one would be terrifying to drive when not loaded. I could imagine it toppling head over heels if the brakes were applied too abruptly!
Yeah, I never even considered doing it to a flat nose. And the bus converted to a trailer looks redneck 100% Bet they won't let that in any rv parks!
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I like the looks of the first one, but it seems kind of redundant to cut off the bus body, that you could live in, so you're able to pull something that you could live in.

Who knows, maybe these were collision buses that someone re-engineered.
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Old 03-16-2016, 02:46 PM   #7
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I like the looks of the first one, but it seems kind of redundant to cut off the bus body, that you could live in, so you're able to pull something that you could live in.

Who knows, maybe these were collision buses that someone re-engineered.
My thought for doing it is to get a 1 ton or better capacity truck for a fraction of the price of a Ford F450 or similar.
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I would use these as transporters in a heart beat..I think I am in love all over again..happyhappyhappy
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I'm not so sure about the skoolie 5th wheel trailer with the air conditioner and stove pipe. That's tantamount to pulling a 5th wheel camper with a bus like the second pic. Just doesn't make sense, but then it's about making due with what you got.
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A local company makes ambulance bodies of all types.

They have specialized in making boxes that can be moved from chassis to chassis at a fraction of the cost of a whole new ambulance.

As a result they usually have four or five used ambulance E-350/450 chassis available where they have installed a bulkhead behind the driver and a bare chassis is out back. They have also done a few with flatbeds and flatbed dumps as well.

Not bad little trucks but the seating is limited to the driver and co-pilot.
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