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Old 08-21-2019, 09:12 AM   #1
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Hi there,

My husband and I are are uncertain whether we should buy this bus any thoughts?

Our desires:
Pull a car (small to midsized)
Mid to full size bus
Cheaper Repairs
Low mileage

The school bus:
$4,500
5.9 Cummins
Owner is unsure on transmission
120k miles
blue bird
2001 make

My worries: Not enough horsepower to tow a car plus its a full size school bus....

Thoughts?
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:33 AM   #2
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Welcome,

You have a valid concern regarding power. The 5.9 is great in a shorty but not ideal in a full size bus.

Transmission is critical. If it has an AT-545 I would keep looking. If it has the MD-3060 it may be worth considering.

If I planned to tow a car, and do some serious traveling, I would hold out for a Cummins 8.3 or Navistar DT-466 and something other than the AT-545 transmission.
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:36 AM   #3
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Is the bus a TC/2000? if so it will have the AT545. I have one and it's fine for me but I am not and would not tow a car with it.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:35 AM   #4
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Welcome,

You have a valid concern regarding power. The 5.9 is great in a shorty but not ideal in a full size bus.

Transmission is critical. If it has an AT-545 I would keep looking. If it has the MD-3060 it may be worth considering.

If I planned to tow a car, and do some serious traveling, I would hold out for a Cummins 8.3 or Navistar DT-466 and something other than the AT-545 transmission.
Great thanks for the advice. I keep reading on here that the ideal engine is DT466 however I have lots of options around me for DT466e or DT466 after 2004. Any thoughts on if its worth looking for an older bus (original DT644) or good to go with the electronic versions?
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:36 AM   #5
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Is the bus a TC/2000? if so it will have the AT545. I have one and it's fine for me but I am not and would not tow a car with it.
I'm not sure but based on what you guys said I don't think that this would be for me anyways! I'm going to look onto more horsepower.
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DT466 after 2000 became a much more fragile engine than earlier years.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:35 PM   #7
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DT466 after 2000 became a much more fragile engine than earlier years.
I'm feeling a little lost on the best choice. Do you have any suggestions?
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Great thanks for the advice. I keep reading on here that the ideal engine is DT466 however I have lots of options around me for DT466e or DT466 after 2004. Any thoughts on if its worth looking for an older bus (original DT644) or good to go with the electronic versions?
I'd look for these engines, in this order-
8.3 cummins
DT466
Cat 3126
Cummins 5.9
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Yes it did.
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:22 PM   #10
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I'd look for these engines, in this order-
8.3 cummins
DT466
Cat 3126
Cummins 5.9
T444E

Okay love this thanks! Last question: if we did a motorcycle/moped instead of the car what would your order be?
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