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Old 05-02-2018, 08:50 PM   #1
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Should we get this bus?

Looking at getting a 2001 international handicap bus that is totally rust free. We may be able to get it for $5500. It has a t444e engine and I think the at545 tranny.

In many ways it seems like the best bus we are going to find, certainly the best bus we have seen in 6 months of searching.

What I'm wondering about is, it has 200k miles with 12k hours. Does this engine still have alot of life in it? We plan on traveling a lot, so decent engine life is important. I'm guessing it's idled alot, which makes sense being a handicap bus, but I don't know what 12k engine hours really means for the engine life.

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Old 05-02-2018, 09:04 PM   #2
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Looking at getting a 2001 international handicap bus that is totally rust free. We may be able to get it for $5500. It has a t444e engine and I think the at545 tranny.

In many ways it seems like the best bus we are going to find, certainly the best bus we have seen in 6 months of searching.

What I'm wondering about is, it has 200k miles with 12k hours. Does this engine still have alot of life in it? We plan on traveling a lot, so decent engine life is important. I'm guessing it's idled alot, which makes sense being a handicap bus, but I don't know what 12k engine hours really means for the engine life.

Thanks for any help
Too much money for a wimpy drivetrain.
Thats a high amount of hours and a decent amount of mileage for the price.

Dealer bus, I take it?

For that kinda money you can find a NICE bus.
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Old 05-02-2018, 09:06 PM   #3
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With proper care and maintenance that's a 500k mile motor. 200k is just broken in if well cared for.
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With proper care and maintenance that's a 500k mile motor. 200k is just broken in if well cared for.
not in a bus. Maybe in Craigslist land.
I've had one. Mine had 206k and 16k hours. Well maintained, ran great. But definitely didn't have another 300k left in it.
Was underpowered even in a 6 window shorty.
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Old 05-02-2018, 09:50 PM   #5
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Too much money for a wimpy drivetrain.
Thats a high amount of hours and a decent amount of mileage for the price.

Dealer bus, I take it?

For that kinda money you can find a NICE bus.
Craigslist

It's the only decent 9 window we have been able to find with a semi decent drive train. We have about another month till we HAVE to get a bus, so if we dont get this 9 window, we are probably going to have to settle for a full size bus.

Still we would much rather get a full size bus with alot of life left, than the perfect 9 window on the verge of death.
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Old 05-02-2018, 09:53 PM   #6
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200k miles on a t444e is ok with us, not preferable, but ok. What I'm really concerned about is the hours. We don't want to buy a bus at the end of an engines life. We want to travel in it full time.
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Old 05-02-2018, 09:56 PM   #7
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With proper care and maintenance that's a 500k mile motor. 200k is just broken in if well cared for.
At 12k hours, how many more miles could I be looking at?
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Old 05-02-2018, 09:59 PM   #8
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not in a bus. Maybe in Craigslist land.
I've had one. Mine had 206k and 16k hours. Well maintained, ran great. But definitely didn't have another 300k left in it.
Was underpowered even in a 6 window shorty.
You tell it like it is Brother.
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Old 05-02-2018, 10:46 PM   #9
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Well we were really excited about this bus, but so far we got 1 person in favor, 2 against. Not looking good
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I have a 2000 - 28í International with a t444e - I love it dearly.

It had 297,000 miles on the engine when I got it - 12735 hours. I paid $4,500.

That was almost a year ago - it is still going strong. Iíve put 12,000 miles on it since October - including some nice climbs through Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana (pulling my Subaru).

I am not saying the bus you are looking at will be the same, but I will stand up for the t444E engine.

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