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Old 02-01-2009, 12:19 PM   #1
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six or seven row?

hi folks,
iīm looking for a school bus but donīt know the right size. i think for south-european roads 7 row is the max. and maybe 6 row is to short for my conversion. for my first floorplan i need the distance between the backdoor and the back of the driver seat of a 6 and 7 row skoolie. here in germany, skoolies are very rare . . .and i donīt want to buy the wrong bus (export and fly is expencive enough)
thanx for your help
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:35 PM   #2
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Re: six or seven row?

sorry if this question is not exact enough
i mean abus like that
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Blueb...7503QQptZBuses

or that
http://www.interstatebussales.com/Ca...BA17BXCHB14416

no handicap and front engine
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:58 PM   #3
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Re: six or seven row?

If six rows is too small for your floor plan... and if seven rows is the max you can drive there.... then it seems to me that you only have one choice! A seven row bus!

How much does it cost to ship a bus from the US to Europe?

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Old 02-02-2009, 12:31 AM   #4
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i cant understand why anybody would want to import a gas guzzler like that to Europe. (may be that is the reason why they are rare) You will not be able to afford to drive that thing to southern europe unless you spend an other few thousand euros and put a fuel efficient engine in to it.
Other then that, go for the 7 row seater.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:28 AM   #5
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Re: six or seven row?

hi,
european rvs look like iceboxes on wheels, no soul



and european rvs with soul are very small and dark inside and often to old 1950 to 1960 (old technic and rare parts)



and ray, the shipping cost is round about 3500 bucks with bus and tax round about 8000 dollars. if i buy a six row bus here in germany i must pay 15500 dollar, i think for me this is a good reason to import.
and swinada, the gas guzzler like the 1977 ihc is a dream of me. i like the old skool look, in the reality it must be an ihc or ford with diesel engine, so i can take veggie oil
if anybody of you ride a 8 or 11 row, please give me the distance between driver seat and the end of the seven row window . . .
greetings from germany
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:17 AM   #6
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Re: six or seven row?

Well what is wrong with driving an old Deutz? I personaly would prefer an old Saurer, but hard to find in Canada (impossible)
This would make the perfect conversion for Canada
of course this is only a model but it does look good.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:55 PM   #7
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If you import a bus from the americas get one with the 5.9 L cummins that should help the mileage a little.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:47 PM   #8
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Hook line and sinker I soooo thought that was a real picture! I was even admiring it! Pretty cool Ride with the plow and all!
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:49 PM   #9
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Even do this is a replica or toy, they did make them like that. But we dont wanna hijack Oilcan's post.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:24 PM   #10
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Re: six or seven row?

hi
at swinada: yes i know, we had a lot of nice rvs, but it is impossible to get one of this in germany, too, to expensive because a collector bus or full of rust and dead engine


daimler benz


daimler benz with scrambler


setra s6

at lady franklin: my favorite engines are cummins or dt 466, i think itīs a good deal

anybody has information (good or bad)about this export-dealers?

http://www.interstatebussales.com/Ca...BA17BXCHB14416

http://www.busandchassisllc.com/vehi...416[2].JPG

http://www.floridachurchbus.com/

but donīt forget i need the length of the seven row skoolie

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Old 02-04-2009, 04:09 PM   #11
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Man! That daimler benz is one pretty looking rig! Reminds me of late-model steam locomotives (or early model diesel loco's).

Nice pics!
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:02 PM   #12
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Re: six or seven row?

hi griff
we make a deal :i feed your eyes with three more photos of this great german bus

and the great dashboard . . .




and you feed my brain with the size of your bus(maybe with a ruler )



i need A to B and A to C
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:23 PM   #13
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Hey Andy,

Thanks for the eye candy feast!

My 1982 Thomas measures:

A to B = 172.25 inches / 437.515 centimeters

A to C = 201.25 inches / 511.175 centimeters

Please note that these measurements are center to center on the window posts.

Hope this helps too!

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p.s. I'll cut off and shorten my Thomas in trade for the Daimler... (...or not... )
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:59 PM   #14
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Re: six or seven row?

hi kevin,
this is a big help for my virtuell floorplan without the real bus (think you mean ft and not cm), but latest in juli i fly to usa and buy a strong bus, maybe in the near of boston, so i have to drive 400 miles to the shipping in new york with a short stop in bethel (woodstock) and hope i get more than a tail lamp warranty
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:07 PM   #15
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hi griff
donīt forget; not every dream must be reality, so donīt be a fool . . .
thanx for your help, these are the right infos
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...As far as traveling to Boston, you might want to look further south towards North Carolina, Georgia, or Florida for your bus. The weather is milder and there's less rust in most buses from the southern USA. Happy to help you any way I can!
Kevin's right about that, Andy, and North Carolina has a major port in Morehead City you may be able to ship it out from. I'm "based" out of North Carolina, so if you decide to try this route, I'll try to get some information about the port and shipping for you.

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YES!! Avoid those "tail light warranties!!"
...and the choir said AMEN!

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Old 02-06-2009, 07:27 AM   #17
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...Andy might want to ship out of the Port of Jacksonville though. More ships leaving on a more regular basis I would guess. Not 'cause JAX is better.....just bigger!
Good point! I hadn't thought about Jax (Wilmington), and you're right, there are more shipments going out of there.

@ Andy: Here's a starting point for some details about NC Seaports: http://www.ncports.com/ HTH!
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...lots of pretty scenery around Morehead City. I have friends in Currie, NC...
Yes, it's a great and beautiful place to visit. I say visit because I'm not a "beach person". I was stationed at MCAS Cherry Point (Cheerless Pit) for 11 years, but was never quite able to make the "adjustment" to coastal living. I always had to make an annual pilgrimage to the Blue Ridge Parkway in the fall to see the leaves change color all over the mountains. (I'm a mountain man from PA, the coastal pines stay green, heh, heh.)

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Old 02-06-2009, 12:30 PM   #18
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Re: six or seven row?

hi
wilmington looks good and if i have more days for lookin around in usa, i could search for the right bus in the south (or dry) states, but i know i have one week to fly, to find, to buy, and to ship . so i must have one adress of one dealer with a lot of buses, were i could lookin for the best bus for my money. the only dealer with a big inventory i have found until now is:
http://www.busandchassisllc.com/home.asp
if you know other good dealers in the south, please write
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Hey Andy,

Here's a link from Sharkey's site that may interest you (...or not... ). It's in Florida, but at least shipping it out shouldn't be a problem:

http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/me ... S-94153477

Note the "Vehicle Description".
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