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Old 03-08-2017, 08:42 PM   #1
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Question Skoolie Survey for School

Hey Everyone!
I have a project and right now I'm in the data collection stage. My business idea is to make skoolies for people that don't have time to. The skoolie would be the customers design or a preset one based off of length. Please complete the survey so I know if there's actually a market for this! If you have any ideas/questions please post them! Also, can y'all please post some photos of your skoolie (preferably completed but in-progress is great too) so that I can use it in my presentation? I will give appropriate credit if you provide your name and location.

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Old 03-09-2017, 05:47 AM   #2
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Done, I was 1st

what do I win
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Old 03-09-2017, 07:42 AM   #3
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I hope your survey is targeting other audiences than this forum, because I think your results may show that most of us are do it ourselves kind of people.
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:17 AM   #4
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Yeah I know y'all are. I was hoping to get some of the people who really want to build a skoolie but just don't have the time or ran out of motivation half way through. Do y'all have any ideas on where I could post this to target then?
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:24 AM   #5
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I'm always interested in the people who ask about starting a schoolie conversion business. I guess there are some legitimate reasons why someone would not do it them selves. The main one being no physical location to do it. I don't buy the "I don't have the skills/ability to do it". There have been plenty on this board that have learned/taught themselves how to do things.

You must have a reasonable expectation of making a profit. Even if you have a REALLY good place to get a bus, less than 10 years old, cheaply and you do a bare minimum conversion, I can't see that you would have less than $8000 invested. That's just to buy the bus and materials needed.

Don't forget you are going to need in varying degrees some sort of
  1. HVAC, heat, AC, or both.
  2. Electrical systems, probably both 12VDC and 120VAC
  3. Domestic water system
  4. Some way to handle waste.
  5. Some way to store and prepare food,
  6. Creature comforts, seating, bedding, etc
In order to use your time wisely you will need to have a LOT of tools. Tools for metal working, wood working, painting, plumbing, electrical and the skills to use them. You have to be able to do almost everything yourself. If you hire someone else to do it remember, THEY have to make a profit which, adds to the amount you have to sell it for.

If you could possibly get one finished in a month, using a 40 hour week and $20 an hour you just added $3,200 to your $8,000. Do people have $11,200 laying around for such things? I'm pretty sure there isn't a bank in the world that would loan the money for one.

Before I get jumped all over by those saying "I did mine for less" remember this is for something to sell. Is yours less than 10 years old? Is it still yellow? Does it have all new materials? If not would you feel comfortable installing a used gas appliance? If this is a business and you intend to do more than one, you can't rely on Craigs list for your materials.

I think that most schoolie owners are in the "I don't have much/any money" category, I know I am. My schoolie is probably one of the more expensive on this board, it isn't finished yet and so far I have been at it for about 5 years. It is my retirement project and I am able to tinker and experiment with alternative ways of doing the "RV" thing. I am putting into practice all of the things I have learned in my life and am still learning and perfecting new skills. Most importantly IT'S PAID FOR and I haven't borrowed anything to do it.

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Most importantly IT'S PAID FOR and I haven't borrowed anything to do it.



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Somewhere that is an excellent post and what I was going to write out...I was too busy though
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I've thought about "professionally" converting skoolies, but it always comes back to "Can I make a profit off of this?" And usually, in the internal dialogue, the answer is almost always a resounding "NO", mostly for the reasons Dick elaborated above.
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Old 03-09-2017, 11:13 AM   #9
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Thanks for y'all's input. I admit starting the business would be difficult but once this gets past my professor then I'm entered in the school's competition and I could win $20,000. So that should be enough to get me started. At least for one bus. I have a deal worked out with the local school district for the bus supply and I'm working on deals with local hardware stores for the other supplies. Please let me know if there's other concerns! I need to be prepared for the "shark tank" of judges in the final round.
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Old 03-09-2017, 12:42 PM   #10
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What kind of drive train do the buses in your local district have? I think you would want to stick to what is highly sought after if your plan is to sell them. Also what kind of experience do you already have converting skoolies or building tiny homes? If I was going to pay to have a bus converted or buy one already converted, I would want to be sure it was done by someone with the know how and not just put together by someone itching to make a profit.
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