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05-18-2016, 01:02 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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So you want to paint your bus, do you?
6 yrs ago when I painted this with Rustoleum, I was in a rush. I didnt prep well at all, knowing exactly what I was doing. It lasted longer than I expected.
The thing I never thought of was getting it removed. This is not the fun part. Pressure washer helped me some today though.
Moral of the story, get a proper paint job or be sure to spend a huge amount of time prepping the bus.
Again, no complaints, just thought I'd share. Now I really have a conversation piece!
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05-18-2016, 01:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Are you changing it totally, or just repainting it the same with a better paint technique?
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05-18-2016, 01:22 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Not going to repaint it. The only way I'd ever do that would be to have it media blasted. I cant get that done around here so.....
Putting money into a paint job in this country is like pouring money down the drain.
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05-18-2016, 01:52 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Whoa!
Thanks for posting, gives me reassurance that all this prep work I'm doing is important!
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05-18-2016, 02:44 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 252
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I love the 'weathered look'! Lol
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05-18-2016, 04:05 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jake_blue
I love the 'weathered look'! Lol
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Wait, I've got it! Dont we call that "patina"?
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05-18-2016, 04:51 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Egads! Bus mange!
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05-18-2016, 06:29 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,708
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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prep work is definitely where its at when it comes to paint! esp on areas like wheels, window frames etc that tend to be smoother than other areas....
but even just going over a bus with TSP and a light sandpaper will give your paint a good chance at success.. and then fix up the chips on it with touchup as needbe
-Christopher
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05-18-2016, 06:46 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
but even just going over a bus with TSP and a light sandpaper will give your paint a good chance at success.
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See picture above.
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05-18-2016, 06:51 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,708
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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did you hit it with TSP and light sand? and then power-wash it? you are right though if you want to remove fully you will have to blast it..
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05-18-2016, 07:00 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Yes, I did. Too many curves to sand properly, unless you have unlimited time and determination.
Looking back, I should have left it yellow and called it good. Only thing I did on this that I regret. Then again with me, mechanical condition trumps looks 10 fold.
I'm contemplating buying this....then I'll have matching paint jobs!!
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05-18-2016, 07:06 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,708
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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gotta love an old willies!!
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05-18-2016, 07:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,708
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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someone definitely spent more on wheels than they did seats...
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05-18-2016, 08:12 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: near Christiansburg VA
Posts: 692
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 44 or 66? 11 rows
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Some states really don't like private ownership of a yellow bus. Other states just want you to black the letters and/or remove the stop sign and disable the lights.
If *MY* state lets me off easy, and I drive through a tighter state, does my state's permission let me off the hook with their troopers? I would much prefer not to paint my proposed bus.
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05-18-2016, 08:29 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 252
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dapplecreek
f *MY* state lets me off easy, and I drive through a tighter state, does my state's permission let me off the hook with their troopers? I would much prefer not to paint my proposed bus.
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It's hard to say. Interstate reciprocity suggests that if it was satisfactory for your home state to register it then another state will have a hard time disputing it. This is like States that don't have annual vehicle inspections - doesn't mean you cannot drive through States that so.
On the other hand, all it takes is one hard-nosed LEO to take issue with it and write a ticket, then all the hard time becomes yours, trying to fight an out of state ticket on a gray area technicality.
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05-18-2016, 10:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by opus
Yes, I did. Too many curves to sand properly, unless you have unlimited time and determination.
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As long as I spent on prepping the interior, I can only imagine what the exterior will entail. At least there won't be tar/asphalteum to deal with.
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05-18-2016, 10:57 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Does the tar interfere with the spray foam? I've noticed the tar too but hadn't planned on scraping it off. In my climate it's more likely to chip off. If there's no known chemical reaction between tar and foam insulation I was just planning to spray over it, when I get that far.
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05-18-2016, 11:58 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2016
Location: I live in Atlanta Georgia.
Posts: 12
Year: n/a
Coachwork: n/a
Chassis: n/a
Engine: n/a
Rated Cap: n/a
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I work for a commercial painting contractor and we paint everything from walls with sheet rock and block walls to chemical tanks for Clorox or even water towers. For something like a bus I don't see why it would be much different than say a steel wall or even a conex container. Why not just go over the whole thing with TSP and then hit it with DTM (direct to metal) bonding primer and then hit with eith a DTM paint or even industrial enamel? Obviously the worst part of the whole process would be the TSP if only because its so time consuming.
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05-19-2016, 06:54 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Does the tar interfere with the spray foam? I've noticed the tar too but hadn't planned on scraping it off. In my climate it's more likely to chip off. If there's no known chemical reaction between tar and foam insulation I was just planning to spray over it, when I get that far.
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I had corrosion and funk behind the tar. ymmv
I don't know much about the spray foam but I don't see why it would react with the asphalteum.
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05-19-2016, 08:22 AM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonbailey
I work for a commercial painting contractor and we paint everything from walls with sheet rock and block walls to chemical tanks for Clorox or even water towers. For something like a bus I don't see why it would be much different than say a steel wall or even a conex container. Why not just go over the whole thing with TSP and then hit it with DTM (direct to metal) bonding primer and then hit with eith a DTM paint or even industrial enamel? Obviously the worst part of the whole process would be the TSP if only because its so time consuming.
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Maybe not if you buy a 2 gallon bug sprayer and apply it that way. You'd just have to make sure all of your electrical stuff was covered or sealed. At least that's what I am attempting to do.
You should do a Sticky thread about proper ways to prep and prime and paint these beasts on a budget!
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