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Old 07-12-2015, 04:00 PM   #41
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I'd always go for tubing. Way cheaper to use tubing and an ordinary t bar. Had too many ratchets break at inopportune moments.

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Old 07-12-2015, 04:39 PM   #42
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I'd always go for tubing. Way cheaper to use tubing and an ordinary t bar. Had too many ratchets break at inopportune moments.
Sorry, pipe fitter by trade. Real scrap pipe or tool's are not a problem. I was trying to think about what to take on the road and how to use what I have to drop weight? My only other spare hang up is I have the old split rim's so my spares are going to travel with chain and binders in the jack compartment.
NAT-is the compressor capable of pressurizing an empty tire enough to set the bead and get me to a station even if it on the front?
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Old 07-12-2015, 04:46 PM   #43
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The compressor on the bus will supply 120 psi, but the holding tanks are small and the lines going in and out are small, it will fill a tire but you will probably have to use the ether trick to seat the bead, I used to run a half inch impact wrench off the air supply on the trucks I used to deliver, you just had to wait sometimes for the compressor to refill the tanks
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Old 07-12-2015, 04:59 PM   #44
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Got it thank's. the ether trick no problem even though I watched a man lose his fore arm muscles and I was already thinking about adding an expansion tank with a check valve (from work) if I decide to cut into the air line to make this happen.
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:00 PM   #45
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Sorry, pipe fitter by trade. Real scrap pipe or tool's are not a problem. I was trying to think about what to take on the road and how to use what I have to drop weight? My only other spare hang up is I have the old split rim's so my spares are going to travel with chain and binders in the jack compartment.
NAT-is the compressor capable of pressurizing an empty tire enough to set the bead and get me to a station even if it on the front?
Thanks for the advice
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:19 PM   #46
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Yes. Mine are more the square shaped style? I have heard them called a lot of things but the ones on all my company's work trucks the tire mechanics run when they see them and I have to wait for another truck to show up? I and my men can almost do this for them but we always wanted there equipment? Regardless of the lug's it is still a ring drove behind the rim that will jump out at you if ya don't know what you are doing?
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:26 PM   #47
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Old 07-12-2015, 06:58 PM   #48
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That's what most people call a "Dayton" type wheel. Not many (if any) still being made. They are hub-centric and can be tricky to mount properly but a lot of old timers & heavy hauler still like'em. Just about all newer trucks come with "Budd" wheels that look and mount more or less like standard auto rims.
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:48 PM   #49
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My skoolie comes with them. I don't figure it's possible to switch hubs though budd wheels would be preferable
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Old 07-12-2015, 09:37 PM   #50
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Easier to change your own on the side of the road with daytons.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:51 PM   #51
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I like both the bud style and the Daytons.

If you were smart enough to build a bus, changing a Dayton style wheel and making it not wobble should not hard.

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Old 07-12-2015, 10:54 PM   #52
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I did see a video on how to do it. It looked pretty much like balancing a bicycle wheel.
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I remember changing Daytons on my dad's trailer when I was a kid. Biggest lesson for me was to loosen the lugs but leave them threaded onto the studs, then tap the wedges gently from the side (about a 3lb hammer did the trick) until they popped loose, THEN remove the lug nuts.

Those wedges are under a fair amount of pressure and can shoot off and through whatever's in front of them. The lugnuts stay threaded on until all the wedges can be wobbled by hand. After that, they're just another wheel IMO...
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I agree with the scrap pipe and a real bar. My question is if I stick a tee in the air line for a neumatic impact gun? Will the bus compressor be able to handle 1 lug at a time coming off (providing threads are cleaned properly) ? 86-b 700
If you are VERY patient you can change a tire using a 1 inch impact and your bus air compressor. VERY patient.
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Anyone ever try an electric impact on wheels? Got enough umph?
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Makita makes an electric impact 1" drive that goes to 768 ft lbs of torque
but it weighs 18.5 lbs and costs $700-$800. I prefer to go with a torque
multiplier lug wrench like this. Torque Multiplier Set Wrench Lug Nut Lugnuts Remover Labor Saving Semi Socket RV | eBay hash=item5417bfc1aa&item=361175695786&vxp=mtr
Even the grand kids can break them loose with one of these.
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Makita makes an electric impact 1" drive that goes to 768 ft lbs of torque
but it weighs 18.5 lbs and costs $700-$800. I prefer to go with a torque
multiplier lug wrench like this. Torque Multiplier Set Wrench Lug Nut Lugnuts Remover Labor Saving Semi Socket RV | eBay hash=item5417bfc1aa&item=361175695786&vxp=mtr
Even the grand kids can break them loose with one of these.
Do you have one of these? If so, how well does it work? Reviews on them are about 50/50. If it'll change one wheel one time (okay, two wheels for inner dual), it's paid for itself ten times. Just curious if it'll do it that one time when you need it...
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Omg $80 for something you do so rarely that can be done with a t bar and a socket. Nice and simple.
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