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07-02-2015, 10:11 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 48
Year: 1998
Coachwork: International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT 466
Rated Cap: 44
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Spare tires
I would like to know if anyone carries a spare tire with them and if you do how or where do you store the spare? Another question would the air system for the breaks be enough to take and put on the lug nuts?
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07-02-2015, 10:19 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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My bus has a factory fitted spare behind the front bumper. Look at my thread "Heavy Fuel" in the bus conversions section. Look for the small black dot between the headlights. That's the portal for the tool to lower the spare from the rack under the frame. As far as using the air from the air brake system, I would recommend using a 15 gallon air tank to slave into the system before trying to change the tire. There are many different ways to accomplish this. My preferred way with my bus is to hook the slave tank into the service line via the air fitting portals by the fuel nozzle. My bus has many different advantages other buses do not have. Just an FYI. Other buses may need modifications in order to accomplish the same things my bus can do.
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07-02-2015, 10:36 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I have Dayton wheels, so if needed I'll just use one of the rears as a spare.
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07-02-2015, 07:01 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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What size of wheel are we talking about? The 11R22.5 & similar usually have their lug nuts torqued in the neighborhood of 450-500 lb-ft. To zip those off I understand one would use a 3/4 or 1 inch air impact wrench, which I have to think would drain the air out of a brake system in a really big hurry (assuming the lines were upgraded to support flowing that much air).
I have run my 1/2 inch impact off the air in my bus, and that worked out fine. But I don't think that wrench would do anything at all with the lug nuts on my bus.
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07-02-2015, 07:36 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,356
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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i had a spare tire carrier and i swapped it into a battery bank.
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07-02-2015, 08:42 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 546
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I carry my 19.5 spare tire only on our car trailer or dolly tongue depending upon which towed we are pulling. Coach-Net will send a strong younger man to R and R the tire.
I am making plans to build a rear bumper based carrier that will mount a tire on a wheel and allow it to swing down to the ground for the nice younger man.
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07-02-2015, 08:54 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Miami
Posts: 172
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP
Engine: CAT 3116
Rated Cap: 84
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I carry a credit card and a phone! Seriously, I don't see myself changing out one of those tires if it goes flat on the road. At home, with the right tools and a good air compressor, maybe, but not on the side of the road.
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07-02-2015, 09:14 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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Triple A plus RV, since mine is titled as an RV
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07-02-2015, 09:26 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by family wagon
What size of wheel are we talking about? The 11R22.5 & similar usually have their lug nuts torqued in the neighborhood of 450-500 lb-ft. To zip those off I understand one would use a 3/4 or 1 inch air impact wrench, which I have to think would drain the air out of a brake system in a really big hurry (assuming the lines were upgraded to support flowing that much air).
I have run my 1/2 inch impact off the air in my bus, and that worked out fine. But I don't think that wrench would do anything at all with the lug nuts on my bus.
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Budd type wheels maybe.
But I can get mine off with a bar.
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07-02-2015, 09:52 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: MB
Posts: 279
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Tomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 54
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I'd carry one, I have dayton wheels so I only need ~200 flbtq.
The only issue it tracking down a rim for "free".
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07-02-2015, 10:39 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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I have duallies on the rear but I'll be packing a spare "just in case". Much cheaper to change one than call someone to go way out if boondocking. No big deal...my Milwaukee impact wrench can handle lug nuts.
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07-02-2015, 10:45 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 163
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07-02-2015, 10:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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I wouldnt even change one at home. Coachnet....
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07-03-2015, 06:24 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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we carry one, tire and rim mounted was $50 (not a recap and not alot of tread) it's enough to keep us going on our trip, I do not want to spend $600 plus because we didn't have one
Coachnet to change it out, in an emergency or no service etc, I have a torque multiplier, a couple jack stands(for torque multiplier use ) and breaker bars etc as well as a bottle jack and 4 pcs of aluminum to use as a safety stand/block under axle
best bet is a credit card and a tire service
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07-03-2015, 07:45 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dond
I am making plans to build a rear bumper based carrier that will mount a tire on a wheel and allow it to swing down to the ground for the nice younger man.
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All my 1100-series Humvees showed up with one, similar to the one shown. Made it a helluva lot easier than trying to drop it off the roof, and then get it back on. Unless the TACPs screwed up, and ran the turnbuckle the wrong way.
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07-03-2015, 09:11 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Mine will tuck in under the rear deck I am building and will fit via a hinged, drop down carrier that is operated by a simple hand crank winch (these tires are HEAVY!). Keeping it out of the sun will also help it last longer without the need for a UV cover.
Like they say about guns..."I'd rather have one and not need it...than need one and not have it."
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07-03-2015, 12:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Many home brew jeeps on pirate 4x4 have swing down spare tire mounts.
I like the ones on the big 8 wheel drive army tucks better. Unlike the hummer, the 8 wheel trucks have a tire closer to the size of a bus.
Nat
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07-03-2015, 07:29 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Gainesville. Georgia
Posts: 544
Year: 1992
Coachwork: bluebird
Rated Cap: 72
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That Simpson Tire Mount sounds nice but my question is "How many years of service can I get from CoachNet or AAA for $650.00.
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07-03-2015, 08:03 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Breeze
That Simpson Tire Mount sounds nice but my question is "How many years of service can I get from CoachNet or AAA for $650.00.
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If you don't have a tire, they will bring you one...At what cost? Tain't free Lot of bux for the tire carrier for sure but if you have a tire on a wheel, the cost should be the cost of a tip for the tire guy.
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