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Old 12-03-2010, 12:11 PM   #21
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One day you will change your tune.
Maybe so, but hopefully not the tune that sings murder is justified.

Silly boy, it's not murder if there is no body to be found!
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:04 PM   #22
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Luke I can understand your reasoning wanting to keep your friends safe by using a designated driver. Ontario Canada the laws are as such; if you can prove the vehicle is a complete residence which means all the following must be meet. At minimum a 3 piece bath, kitchen with fridge, stove, sink, and sleeping accommodations. This makes it a home and subject to all laws pertaining to homes. By our laws for an officer to enter your home or in this case your bus they need either a warrant or justifiable cause. Justifiable cause can be anything that makes the officers sincerely believe a law is being broken. This includes but not limited to sounds, smells, and visual evidence.
OP was correct that when under power the bus becomes a vehicle and therefore subject to all rules of the road which means no open alcohol period. In Ontario there is also licensing laws also if the bus is capable of seating 11 passengers a bus license is required to drive it. Research local laws as what might be might be applicable may very well change if you cross any borders or state lines on the way to your destination. Best to limit the partying to when stationary.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:35 PM   #23
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WOW!

Luke wrote: "if a policeman saw my fun wagon and pulled me over do you think he would insist on seeing the passenger area?"
> It depends on who and where. Border Patrol within 100 air miles of Canada or Mexico will check the back for sure. Locals depend on local laws. Even where "reasonable cause to believe" is required but does not exist, they may search anyway, and it is up to your defense attorney to try and throw out what they might find. Good Luck.

Smitty wrote: "If you want to "party" underage, do it at someone's house, not on the road."
> Amen. Sleep it off after the party, then leave and go home. Or use a taxi or designated driver.

Papabear wrote: "You can refuse a search of your vehicle. At that point you can be held until a K9 unit has arrived and done a walk around and either cleared you or taken a hit"
>It again depends on who and where. NY's top court recently ruled tighter restrictions are guaranteed by the State than the US Constitution, so no "free air sniffs" without reasonable cause to believe, unless there is a Fed dog handy. And I have not heard of "Alcohol Dogs." "Drug Dogs" and "Bomb Dogs" yes, and (no lie) "Cell Phone Dogs" in prisons. But it is still up to your attorney to get any evidence found thrown out if they perform an "illegal" search anyway.

Thechandler wrote: "think back to your highschool years, we all drank."
>Thinking back to my high school 'extra curricular' activities, it was the grace of God, not intelligent decisions on my part that allowed me to survive them.

Smitty wrote: "Now, let's see.....ever seen a car-load of teens? Ever see them jack with the guy driving? "
> That's why the law here won't allow a bunch of even sober non-related teens to ride with an under-21 driver. The law currently allows one friend as a passenger, and several legislators want to change that down to zero.

I agree with Lorna that if you are old enough to handle deadly weapons and risk your life for your country (thank you), you are old enough to handle alcohol. And RV passengers in many places have exemption from the "No Open Containers in Vehicles" laws. But the bottom line is, the original idea (now scrapped) sounds like a cop magnet.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:45 PM   #24
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And then there are the parents who would take things into their own hands. I know that if my girls were under age and I found out they were in the situation that OP proposes... let's just say he would never see his 21st birthday, no body would ever be found and I would have an airtight alibi. It pays to know folks in low places.
You belong in a straitjacket, in a padded cell. Having a beer at age 19 is EEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL, but MURDER FOR HIRE is A-OK? Talk about some seriously twisted values. I hope your children are able to escape before being damaged for good by their psycopath mother.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:23 PM   #25
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Message edited. My apologies for my reply. My only excuse is that I was full of cough meds and have nothing else to say on this subject.
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Smitty .. use your mod-powers and just delete this thread .. this is a mess ...
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And then there are the parents who would take things into their own hands. I know that if my girls were under age and I found out they were in the situation that OP proposes... let's just say he would never see his 21st birthday, no body would ever be found and I would have an airtight alibi. It pays to know folks in low places.
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Maybe so, but hopefully not the tune that sings murder is justified.

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Silly boy, it's not murder if there is no body to be found!
Have you been hitting the bottle. You know that cough syrup has alcohol in it too. Why would you say that to the world. I guess there goes your alibi.
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Luke - doesn't matter whether your plan is legal or not, it's got TRAIN WRECK written all over it.

Lorna - You just said out loud what any parent would be thinking. I would seriously consider going postal on any guys that lured my girls into this sort of situation.
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Old 01-30-2011, 01:19 AM   #29
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Smitty .. use your mod-powers and just delete this thread .. this is a mess ...
If you hadn't noticed, I had my mod status revoked for not being a liberal ass-kisser............only was told a different "story" as the reason.

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LOL. Smitty, you're too nice to be a mod. You have to be a hard assed, opinionated, outspoken kinda guy to be a mod and that's just not you. Sorry. Maybe in your next life.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:42 PM   #30
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register it as a Livery vehicle, and get a class B lic, and you are all set, at least thats one way around it in Mass.
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