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Old 06-22-2017, 11:42 AM   #1
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Surplus RV windows - Trim ring replacement?

Hey Everyone,

I have been looking at surplus RV windows and all of the ones that I see that come close to what I am wanting appear to be missing the trim ring.

Have any of you all purchased windows minus the trim ring? If so, how did you work out the installation?

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Old 06-22-2017, 02:32 PM   #2
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all 9 windows i put in mine do not have the trim ring, if its the same thing we're talking about it just hides the screws? i installed mine using rivets and it just matches the rivets i used to panel the sides of my bus. might be a different situation for you though.

i have no problems with the way it looks without the trim rings, i have pictures of how i installed mine somewhere in my build in the link below.
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:38 PM   #3
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heres the page its on:
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/92...-11151-11.html


hopefully it'll bring you to it since i have the max number of posts shown per page.
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You have me questioning what "no trim rings included" means. I am going to have to call and ask the sellers.

When I did my last bus I installed RV windows and there was an aluminum extrusion that went inside the bus and the screws went through the inside "trim ring" through the wall and attached to the main window assembly and held it in place.

I had assumed that these windows ship without that inside piece.

Hmmm....
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Mine came with trim rings. I've heard a lot of people don't use the trim rings. If you're doing a nice build they can look kind of 70's.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:29 AM   #6
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I am confused... What I think of as the trim ring holds the window in place.
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That's my theory too, but apparently you can substitute by making your own.

Of the few individuals I've talked to about the trim ring, one said the trim ring just didn't look right with their interior so they made their own retaining system. That was a very long time ago and I don't remember the specifics. The other guy said the trim rings actually didn't physically fit, and again they designed their own window retaining system.
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That is the question..... HOW did they make the replacement trim ring???

I am formulating ideas and have note come up with a good solution. I would love to see examples of what others have done.
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Personally I would make a retaining system that worked on the same principal as the trim ring, but using wood or even metal. You only need a certain number of connection points to hold the window securely.

I'd use wood to make the interior connection points, and that would eventually be covered by trim around the windows. Just a simple wooden frame with the interior dimensions matching the window, all buried in the wall when you're finished.

I've also seen people just screw the exterior window frame to the bus and cleverly hide the screws.

I've got four dark tinted approximately 2'x2' windows with bug screens and the retaining rings if you're interested. These are single pane. I gave a buck and a quarter for them.
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Thanks Robin.

I am going to hold out for double pane windows.

The factory trim rings make for a quick and neat install. The DIY replacement that I am envisioning would be a bit complicated and time consuming.

I am hoping to find a simpler solution.
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Why couldn't you "bury" tabs to screw through. Then cover them with the finished wall.

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I ended up not using those windows specifically because they're single pane. To much work to end up with the same thermal conductivity problems, but the goal at that time was bug screens.

The windows were out of some weird Mecedes motorhome I'd never seen before.
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If I had the room, I have seen quite a few tow behinds that have everything I need including a few nice windows, cheap.
I could get the tanks, sink, a/c, propane system, water heater, furnace, and probably stuff i haven't even realized I needed for about a grand. I have been actively looking for a free place to park and strip such a beast, then scrap it.

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The trim ring also forms the finished "inside" edge around the window. That is the part that is tripping me up.

For the mechanical side of it I can mortise the plywood next to the window opening 1/8"x1.5" and flush mount 1/8"x2" aluminum flat stock, drill to match the mounting screws on the window and install the window.

Making it look good has me looking at laminating strips of hardwood to create my own trim ring for each window.

I am hoping to find a simpler solution.
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If I had the room, I have seen quite a few tow behinds that have everything I need including a few nice windows, cheap.
I could get the tanks, sink, a/c, propane system, water heater, furnace, and probably stuff i haven't even realized I needed for about a grand. I have been actively looking for a free place to park and strip such a beast, then scrap it.

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I considered doing that and then I realized that some of the pieces I would not want to use: the windows (single pane), tanks (too small), Water heater (I want tankless), sink (its plastic). The propane tanks & regulator are ok though.

I figured out that I want a nicer level of material & finish than I can find in an old used RV.

That is just me though.
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