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Old 04-19-2017, 01:41 PM   #1
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Swapping Wheels

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I just purchased a 1975 IH Loadstar 1600, 8 windows bus. I do believe it has Dayton style wheels with split rims. My understanding is that these style of wheels are dangerous and should probably be replaced with a solid style wheel.

Is this an option? How about tires?

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Old 04-19-2017, 01:58 PM   #2
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Hello everyone,

I just purchased a 1975 IH Loadstar 1600, 8 windows bus. I do believe it has Dayton style wheels with split rims. My understanding is that these style of wheels are dangerous and should probably be replaced with a solid style wheel.

Is this an option? How about tires?

Thank You for your input
I think to get away from Dayton style wheels involves changing out axles. But I know there are Dayton wheels that aren't split rims.

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Old 04-19-2017, 02:02 PM   #3
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Good to know. I definitely do not want to swap axles, too much $$$! I am going to snap pics and post them for help in identifying my setup and hopefully options.

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I took some photos of both front & rear wheels/tires. I could really use some help determining what my options are for upgrading wheels without having to swap an axle. Thank You.
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Those are split ring. I'm pretty sure you can get more modern solid rims in the Dayton style. A lot of truckers preferred them when I was a kid. Preferred them over what? I think you can update your rims on those same axles. It's not that expensive to get six or seven modern rims at a truck junk yard. I paid $50 per wheel.

I've never bought a truck or bus with that Dayton type of wheels, on purpose. At the same time I have other split ring standard rims on older buses and trucks that work just fine.
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You can convert to budd style rims. You need the entire hub assys. You don't need to change axles. They need to match the axles you have. Your local wrecking yard and truck shop can lead you in the right direction. If you ger 10 bolt budds, you can go with 20 or 22.5 rims.
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Dayton are not dangerous. People confuse these with some older style rims that were dangerous. I prefer Dayton rims. You do need to be aware that when removing Dayton rims you need to loosen, but do not remove the lugs. Then hit the tire with a hammer to separate it. Then remove the lugs and wedges. If you don't follow that procedure the rim and/or wedges can hit you. Google this if you need to see how it done.
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Those are 20" rims. The rims you want are 22.5" Daytons. Obviously you'll have to get tires to fit the new wheels, but those wheels will fit the hubs you have.

With heavy duty wheels, if it's a round number (20", 22") it's a split rim. If it ends in a .5 (22.5", 24.5") it's a one piece rim. 22.5s and 24.5s come in both Dayton and Budd styles, but both are one piece wheels.

20" and 22.5" Dayton will fit on the same hub. 22" and 24.5" Dayton will fit on the same hub.
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Thanks so far for all the great info. A couple of questions.

The current front tires are weather checked pretty bad so I definitely want to replace them. They are tube style and the Dayton wheels are split-ring, so are tube styles tires obsolete? Can I replace the wheels with single piece demount-able wheels? I can't seem to locate a suitable wheel based on a "modern" conversion. What do I need to make this work? I have looked at the offerings by Accuride but the recommended conversion is to go to a 22.5 x 6.75 single piece wheel which does not seem to exist. Is there a 2nd recommended tubeless Dayton wheel size I can go with?
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so are tube styles tires obsolete? Can I replace the wheels with single piece demount-able wheels? I can't seem to locate a suitable wheel based on a "modern" conversion. What do I need to make this work? I have looked at the offerings by Accuride but the recommended conversion is to go to a 22.5 x 6.75 single piece wheel which does not seem to exist. Is there a 2nd recommended tubeless Dayton wheel size I can go with?
Yeah, they're pretty much obsolete. All you need to do the "conversion" is the new wheels and tires. You'll probably have an easier time finding 7.50 x 22.5 wheels and running 10 22.5 tires. Or you could go even easier and get 8.25 x 22.5 wheels (extremely common) with 295/75 22.5 tires (wider than 10 22.5s, but the same diameter) or 11 22.5s if you have room for them.
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