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06-02-2016, 01:12 PM
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Bus Geek
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Temporary paint?
Hey Everyone,
I am helping out with a short bus project and we are looking at the requirement that the bus be non-yellow for titling as an RV.
We are far from ready to paint and I started thinking about some kind of temp paint job.
My thought is to do a Q&D mask job and spray or roll on a quick coat of cheap interior latex or some suitable coating and then take it to the carwash after having it inspected.
Some kind of craft paint perhaps? I also saw a picture of some kind of paint that was sprayed onto the hood of a car and then later simply pealed off. No clue what it was.
Suggestions?
Thanks.
S.
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06-02-2016, 01:27 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Hey Everyone,
I am helping out with a short bus project and we are looking at the requirement that the bus be non-yellow for titling as an RV.
We are far from ready to paint and I started thinking about some kind of temp paint job.
My thought is to do a Q&D mask job and spray or roll on a quick coat of cheap interior latex or some suitable coating and then take it to the carwash after having it inspected.
Some kind of craft paint perhaps? I also saw a picture of some kind of paint that was sprayed onto the hood of a car and then later simply pealed off. No clue what it was.
Suggestions?
Thanks.
S.
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Just do a quick prep job and mask it. Then hit it with rustoleum or something like it.
A whole gallon of Rustoleum is around $25. Pick your favorite color.
The peel-able paints are crap and will cost a lot more and take just as long to properly put on. They don't "just peel off", either.
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06-02-2016, 02:11 PM
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Bus Geek
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"My thought is to do a Q&D mask job and spray or roll on a quick coat of cheap interior latex or some suitable coating and then take it to the carwash after having it inspected."
Then it will be yellow again and the ticket will be the same!?!
Ditto ECCB's remark.
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06-02-2016, 02:58 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ol trunt
"My thought is to do a Q&D mask job and spray or roll on a quick coat of cheap interior latex or some suitable coating and then take it to the carwash after having it inspected."
Then it will be yellow again and the ticket will be the same!?!
Ditto ECCB's remark.
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I understand:
1) Buy bus & get trip permit to bring bus home.
2) Prep & paint bus w/ rustolium
3) Pass (hopefully) inspection.
4) Take bus home and perform significant body repairs & modifications.
5) Prep & paint bus w/ rustolium
I was hoping not to perform a proper prep & paint twice. Hence my question.
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06-02-2016, 03:16 PM
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Bus Nut
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Exterior latex seems to work well. Get the cheapest you can find. After a few weeks, you can hit it with a wire brush or pressure washer. Mine is auto-shedding its skin after just a few weeks....
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06-02-2016, 03:45 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Ace Rust Stop works nice too.
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06-02-2016, 04:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I understand:
1) Buy bus & get trip permit to bring bus home.
2) Prep & paint bus w/ rustolium
3) Pass (hopefully) inspection.
4) Take bus home and perform significant body repairs & modifications.
5) Prep & paint bus w/ rustolium
I was hoping not to perform a proper prep & paint twice. Hence my question.
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Hard to do "temporary" when painting something that will literally take gallons of paint. The amount of effort that a crappy paint job takes is still quite substantial.
I wasn't saying to make it a showpiece. Just pressure wash it, hit any horrible areas with a sander, mask off the bulk of what you can, and paint it some color you like that's cheap.
That's about as quick a job as you're gonna pull off painting a bus, man.
Once you're home free and titled or whatever, you can give the whole bus a good sanding and do any body work you need to do.
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06-02-2016, 05:22 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
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What a about a cheap "wrap" job -- how does craft/hobby/sign-making vinyl compare to paint in price and effort? How much of the body must change color? For example, on the sides could you get away with only changing the color of the spaces between the rub rails, under the windows?
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06-02-2016, 09:18 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
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Seems to me you'd be better off in the long run doing a decent prep job and rolling on a coat of primer. When you finally decide to paint it you'll have a decent base.
Doing it the easy way now will cost you later.
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06-02-2016, 09:22 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roach711
Seems to me you'd be better off in the long run doing a decent prep job and rolling on a coat of primer. When you finally decide to paint it you'll have a decent base.
Doing it the easy way now will cost you later.
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That's a great suggestion.
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06-03-2016, 10:10 AM
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Bus Nut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roach711
Seems to me you'd be better off in the long run doing a decent prep job and rolling on a coat of primer. When you finally decide to paint it you'll have a decent base.
Doing it the easy way now will cost you later.
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I will second this suggestion...
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06-03-2016, 04:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyCoyote
Exterior latex seems to work well. Get the cheapest you can find. After a few weeks, you can hit it with a wire brush or pressure washer. Mine is auto-shedding its skin after just a few weeks....
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Thank you for the suggestion!!
That is the kind of solution I am hoping for. Just get me through the inspection so that I can title, register and insure the bus.
The yard where we will be working on the bus requires current registration & insurance. To get title, registration & insurance we have to show that we are not yellow and have a bed, toilet, cooking capability, fresh and waste water storage. I have a mattress, composting toilet, camp stove and 2 55 gallon drums plumbed and ready to go. The only hang up is being yellow.
Back to the latex. Do you think interior latex would be any easier to "shed" ?
I can get 5 gallons of mis-mixed interior latex for $20. That with $15 worth of masking materials and an afternoon with my airless would have me a non-yellow bus and hopes that 3-4 months of exposure to the elements will have it ready to come off with a good pressure washing.
What do you think?
S.
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03-04-2024, 09:05 AM
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Bus Nut
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That is a good question!
Quote:
Back to the latex. Do you think interior latex would be any easier to "shed" ?
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What is the easiest to "shed" temporary paint?
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03-04-2024, 10:49 PM
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Skoolie
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Quickie Paint job
I agree that doing thorough prep and a good paint job is best. But if you just want it a different color that will come off easy later then Interior latex with poor prep would do it. Then a 4000 psi pressure washer will strip it right off as fast as you can move the wand.
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03-05-2024, 03:02 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2019
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That's exactly . . .
" Then a 4000 psi pressure washer will strip it right off as fast as you can move the wand."
. . . what I'm looking for.
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03-05-2024, 05:40 PM
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Bus Nut
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Consider painting it the same color as you intend to do your final paint so the title and registration have the correct color.
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