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Old 11-02-2017, 05:06 PM   #1
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Thomas Bus Demo Question

I want to remove the sidewall sheet metal panels under the windows to insulate with foam board. I will be recovering the sidewalls with wood of some type. The top of the panel seems to wrap horizontally and project under the windows. Can I remove these sheet metal panels without disturbing the windows (leaving the windows in place)?

The photo shows an example of the area I am talking about.

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Old 11-02-2017, 05:10 PM   #2
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You can either cut it right below the windows, and remove the rest, or not, when you take out the windows, or take them out first and remove it all.
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Old 11-02-2017, 05:21 PM   #3
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You can but if you are keeping those single pane non insulated windows then you are going to eventually have to pull all the old caulking around each one to re-seal them cause they are eventually going to leak if not already and the easiest way to do that is to pull the windows frame and all out and clean and start fresh.
Regardless the top of that panel only looks like the window frame holding it in?
It is actually bent back down and forced into a track.
Quickest way to remove it is to take all the screws out , bend the panel all the way up to the windows and use a cut off wheel on a grinder to cut them with a helper if available to hold/catch as you cut.
Look inside of the window tracks for the screws that hold them.
I kept some windows and moved my emergency ones around to where I needed in my build.
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:26 PM   #4
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Dealing with this as well with our 1993 thomas, my solution is tin snips for now and dealing with windows later. The furthest ones back are hardest to get the snips behind. A lot of people will say just angle grind but Iím personally hesitant to just go crazy with power tools Iíve never used.

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That insulation behind the tin paneling looks to have held up well. I am thinking I may use 1/2" foam board over the existing tin paneling and some kind of wood work over that. I will lose two inches of interior width but I don't feel that's critical for my needs.

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That insulation behind the tin paneling looks to have held up well. I am thinking I may use 1/2" foam board over the existing tin paneling and some kind of wood work over that. I will lose two inches of interior width but I don't feel that's critical for my needs.

Been sick with a stomach flu for the past week bus should be able to get back to the bus Monday
IDK if we're looking at the same insulation but the stuff above looks pretty nasty.
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:38 PM   #7
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That insulation behind the tin paneling looks to have held up well. I am thinking I may use 1/2" foam board over the existing tin paneling and some kind of wood work over that. I will lose two inches of interior width but I don't feel that's critical for my needs.

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I'd take it out. I have seen worse pictures than the one you posted, but it's old, looks like it might have traces of mold, and it will not insulate nearly as well as the same space filled with closed-cell foam (either board, or sprayed).

The only reasons to leave it in are to save a few hours of work and a couple of hundred dollars. Those reasons might be necessary for some, but I wouldn't find them compelling ... but it's your bus
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:57 AM   #8
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Insulation

Not my bus or photo but a 1993 Thomas bus similar to mine.

I'm not building an Alaska cabin, just a camper to take south for the winter (think Snowbird). Sub freezing temps will be few and far between. I'm not allergic to mold, neither is my wife. I have been working around mold since long before it became a litigious factor. It will also be encapsulated behind the tin which I am going to leave undisturbed. I am going forth with a 1/2 inch of closed cell foam over the tin and then whatever paneling product I choose.

I do thank you all for your opinions and advice.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:37 AM   #9
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Hereís another photo of my demo and possibly another reason to re insulate. Just my opinion, Iíd be cautious just covering things up in fear of longer term problems like rust or rot. I just see it as a good time to reseal that old body up being that itís about to turn 25 years old. (Which means no more emissions testing wahoo!!)





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