Total Lenght of an 28 Passenger Bluebird

[Krakz]

Hello

I live in Germany. I want to convert an US BUS. I have woo ways to get one:

First
I can ask an Importeur and he will buy me one in the USA.
Nice: I can choose any Type I like (if ts fit für Registration in Germany)
Not so nice: It s expensive

Second:
I buy one, who s already in Europe. The most will be ex-military. The always have a short nose. Types are like Bluebird All American / TC 2000 or Thomas Saf-Liner- with 44 Passenger Seats or 28 passenger seats.
Pro: There are much cheaper here then in the USA - because they are to exotic for a proffessional fleet.
(Have a Look. Noone want to buy this one für only 2800 Euro plus Taxes - 5500 US-Dollar [urlhttp://]http://www.vebeg.de/web/de/a...0&SHOW_LOS=22)Vebeg [/url]

My Question: Does anyone know the total lenght of a Shortnose 28 Passenger Thomas Bluebird and the lenght after driver seat? exact or nearly

I have looked, but didn´t find it.

The Shorter One would be better for me, because the total weight after conversion should be under 7,5 tons .... Lenght after driver seat should be 6 meters or 235 zoll too

[bansil]

http://www.vebeg.de/web/de/auktionen...0&SHOW_LOS=22)

Wow neat bus, I have never seen a Thomas with those type of windows (those are transit type windows)

It was never a school bus (no flashing lights) it does have the extra rub rails for strength
very neat and rear engine also

I can't read anything else

[Krakz]

No No School Bus - all these busses at the vebeg site are from the us-military.

The newer ones (2000 ff) are most Thomas Sat-F-Liner - wirth rear machine und underground storage, isolated windows - very nice, but too heavy for me if they have 44 Seats. It s just an Exemple of the pricing.

The older ones are Bluebirds TC 2000 ---- with 44 seats they have an empty weight about 6,600 tons - maybe i coild strip off 500 kg (Floor, Seats, some windows) - it leaves just 1,2 for conversion stuff ....

So i guess a 28 seater will make about 5 ton. 2,5 ton and a bit more (seats renmoved etc) für RC-Conversion - sounds better

What i need to know, is the length of a 28er seater - the 44er are about 10.2 Meters overall ....

Is it about 8 meters? That wold be fine, is it 6,5 meters overall than it is not enough ....

[bansil]

the windows on the sides are roughly 2-1/2 feet long or 250 centimeters (hope math is right)

[Krakz]

Hmm thanks

2 and 1/2 feet ist about 76,2 cm

Problem is: the windows dont have the same length ...
But if you are right: overall length: 8 Windows (6 meter) plus door (09 meter) plus space between (0,5 meter) is about 7,5 meters (295 in) - space behind driver seat will remain rougly 6 meters (236 in). This would do it for me - a bit will be better, aber it s not possible to get one with 35 seats (and flatnose) in germany.

This one is a actuall offer in Germany - (bit shitty) Bluebird

http://suchen.mobile.de/lkw-inserat/and ... rice=false

The second Thomas Transitliner (bit shitty)

http://suchen.mobile.de/lkw-inserat/and ... rice=false

The look both like standing four years in the rain .... each will come up to 13.539 Dollar (10.000 Euro) with registration done an plus work and service

[bansil]

this one is similar at 30 feet

http://www.skoolie.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=6366

[Krakz]

Oh wow
Thanks Basil - it s not the same type - seem to have be same size - if i count the windows

but this one has orignally 9 rows of seats or 35 pax (without wehhelchair space) - the bus must be larger than the 28 seaters

35pax 30 feet = 9,18 meter
44 pax - 10,5 Meter 34 feet

28 pax perhabs 7,6 meter to 8 meter or 26 feet

The same -but can t find the owner
http://www.skoolie.net/gallery/index.ph ... 0/blubbard

Little Add
The small Bluebird seems to be built with the length of 25 ft (small!) and 27 ft (good for me)