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Old 04-29-2013, 12:03 PM   #11
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Re: Towing with your skoolie

I may not be a traveling gypsy, but I have done some welding. The bottom of your hitch tube needs to be affixed to the plate at either end, or better yet boxed in. Look at any commercial hitch rated to tow a vehicle, none will leave three sides of the hitch tube unsupported. I can post pics of the hitch on my bus if you need.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:39 PM   #12
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I may not be a traveling gypsy, but I have done some welding. The bottom of your hitch tube needs to be affixed to the plate at either end, or better yet boxed in. Look at any commercial hitch rated to tow a vehicle, none will leave three sides of the hitch tube unsupported. I can post pics of the hitch on my bus if you need.
No I don't need pics. This hitch is built like many other hitches are built in the area we came out of. They were built by Pro welders. The receiver on my Drawtight hitch on the Jeep isn't supported on "three sides" either. Those plates are just to hook the safety chains into. My pro diesel mechanic/certified welder cousin checked out our tow hitch as well.

As you can see, there is more than one way to make a hitch.











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Old 04-29-2013, 08:12 PM   #13
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... im concerned about the t444e not haveing pulling power, its a bit of a dog at the best of times, but just have to take my time.
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I drove for Reimer, Day&Ross, VA and a few other companies that like to use underpowered trucks and govern them under 90km/h
I'm pretty used to being a rolling road block by now
What are you planing to tow?
I will tow a small open trailer with either my motorcycle, and DW bike, or my trail 90 and the Honda jazz, I have a 5x10 trailer. The long term plan is to pull a small car 4 down, and yup Ill most likely be a rolling road block
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:24 AM   #14
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Re: Towing with your skoolie

Are you trying to prove my point? Only one of the hitches you posted leaves 3 sides unsupported, it bolts under a bumper and I bet it isn't rated to tow your Jeep.





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I may not be a traveling gypsy, but I have done some welding. The bottom of your hitch tube needs to be affixed to the plate at either end, or better yet boxed in. Look at any commercial hitch rated to tow a vehicle, none will leave three sides of the hitch tube unsupported. I can post pics of the hitch on my bus if you need.
No I don't need pics. This hitch is built like many other hitches are built in the area we came out of. They were built by Pro welders. The receiver on my Drawtight hitch on the Jeep isn't supported on "three sides" either. Those plates are just to hook the safety chains into. My pro diesel mechanic/certified welder cousin checked out our tow hitch as well.

As you can see, there is more than one way to make a hitch.











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Old 04-30-2013, 09:55 AM   #15
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Re: Towing with your skoolie

I THINK it has a lot to do with the weight classification of the receiver hitch on how well they are built.

additional info may be found . http://www.hitchesonline.com/hitch_selection.htm

Hitches

The Hitch is the mechanism that is typically mounted to the rear of a vehicle under the bumper. There are five classes of Hitches for towing trailers. Each class is designed for a specific trailer weight range. When selecting the appropriate hitch make sure the weight rating of the hitch is greater than the loaded weight of the trailer that will be towed. The tow vehicle capacity for weight carrying and hitch attachment will vary and will sometimes dictate the class of hitch that can be used.

Class I
Class I hitches are weight carrying (WC) hitches rated up to 2000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 200 lbs. The use of a drawbar and hitch ball of the same rating or higher is required. Some hitches in this class may attach to the vehicle bumper or trunk pan. Most other Class I hitches attach to the vehicle frame. Always consult your owner's manual for vehicle rating.

Class II
Class II hitches are weight carrying (WC) hitches rated up to 3500 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 300 lbs. The use of a drawbar and hitch ball of the same rating or higher is required. Class II hitches normally attach to the vehicle frame and or bumper. Always consult your owner's manual for vehicle rating.

Class III
Class III hitches are weight carrying (WC) and also are weight distributing (WD) hitches depending on the vehicle and hitch specifications. Not all Class III hitches are rated to be both. The hitch specifications will alert you to a hitch that is not weight distributing. Class III hitches used as weight carrying is rated up to 6000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 600 lbs. Hitches that are used for weight distributing are rated up to 10,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1000 lbs. The use of a ball mount and hitch ball of the same rating or higher is required. To use the weight distribution side of the hitch a weight distribution system is required. Class III hitches attach to the vehicle frame only. Always consult your owner's manual for vehicle rating.

Class IV
Class IV hitches is very similar to Class III hitches except for the weight ratings. Class IV hitches are weight carrying (WC) and weight distributing (WD) hitches depending on the vehicle and hitch specifications. Not all Class IV hitches are rated to be both. The hitch specifications will alert you to a hitch that is not weight distributing. Class IV hitches used as weight carrying is rated up to 10,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1000 lbs. Hitches that are used for weight distributing are rated up to 14,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1400 lbs. The use of a ball mount and hitch ball of the same rating or higher is required for weight carrying. To use the weight distribution side of the hitch a weight distribution system is required. Class IV hitches attach to the vehicle frame only. Always consult your owner's manual for vehicle rating.

Class V
Class V hitches is very similar to Class III & IV hitches except for the weight ratings and that the hitch uses a 2-1/2" receiver. Class V hitches are weight carrying (WC) and weight distributing (WD) hitches. Class V hitches used as weight carrying is rated up to 12,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1200 lbs. Hitches that are used for weight distributing are rated up to 17,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1700 lbs. The use of a ball mount and hitch ball of the same rating or higher is required. To use the weight distribution side of the hitch a weight distribution system is required. Class V hitches attach to the vehicle frame only. Always consult your owner's manual for vehicle rating.






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Old 04-30-2013, 04:35 PM   #16
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Re: Towing with your skoolie

It took me all of 5 minutes to cut these brackets out. Their addition would take such a hitch from being highly questionable to very strong, assuming the plate they would weld to was competently affixed to the vehicle. I don't understand the "pro welders" that wouldn't take a little extra time and effort. The brackets are upside down as to how they would fit on the hitch.

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Old 04-30-2013, 06:47 PM   #17
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Re: Towing with your skoolie

I tow my jeep with the bus all the time. The main reason I bought a bus, rather then a motorhome.

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I got a reciever hitch off of a chevy van and narrowed it. I sleeved the inside after cutting it, then rewelded all back together. Also put a bolt on reciever tube on just because I had it laying around.





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Old 04-30-2013, 09:45 PM   #18
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Nice work. Awesome bus. Do you ever wish for the pickup/long gooseneck with camper and jeep setup instead, or having used it for a while would you do it all over again?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:37 PM   #19
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Thanks. I just put the hitch together with what I had, or stuff people gave me. So it didn't cost me a dime other then alittle time.

Thanks for the nice comments.

I really debated long and hard about what direction I should go before I bought the bus. The bus suits my needs for now. As a family we have really enjoyed it. I like the fact of so much space while traveling, unlike riding in a pickup for hours on end. I really don't think there is a perfect solution. The bus is cheap and I like that. I'm thinking in another 5-6 yrs or so, I would like to maybe step up to a big rig. Maybe finish off a drop deck trailer into rv'ing/toy hauler. But for now we have fun in the bus.
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