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Old 08-06-2013, 10:02 AM   #11
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I think round tubing would be a good solution, but isn't there enough flex in the channels that you could just get 1-1/8" square tubing and clamp the sides of the channel (where it is 1-1/4") to it? I have a hard time believing it would be that rigid.
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Re: Ugh, the not square Thomas buses.

my thinking is this:

and only pertains to the 3 different places I buy steel at work

1-1/8 dia x .083 wall tubing ERW (not DOM) is a stocked item and this means it's a lot cheaper

1-1/8 sq tubing is only available in 18 (.049) and 16 gage (.065) sizes and is not stocked so it is more $$

just some options to look at and ERW tubing is plenty strong enough for what your doing

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that's why they had a recall on the juck bussis,they make them the chesps way and bad steel ,,buy a B/B...
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I think round tubing would be a good solution, but isn't there enough flex in the channels that you could just get 1-1/8" square tubing and clamp the sides of the channel (where it is 1-1/4") to it? I have a hard time believing it would be that rigid.
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How much welding do you do? If your good enough you would just get the smaller size square tubing, 1-1/8 I think It was. So 1-1/8 square tubing and just fill the gap where it widens to 1-1/4. i have done wider than that, i eyeball a lot of stuff i make and have to most of the time. Would be very easy, and would help if you cut one all beam piece out and used it for a test weld, then just use more square tubing to fill the length you cut.

1-1/8" square tubing is hard to find and is not very thick. Round tubing has about twice as thick a wall.
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my thinking is this:

and only pertains to the 3 different places I buy steel at work

1-1/8 dia x .083 wall tubing ERW (not DOM) is a stocked item and this means it's a lot cheaper

1-1/8 sq tubing is only available in 18 (.049) and 16 gage (.065) sizes and is not stocked so it is more $$

just some options to look at and ERW tubing is plenty strong enough for what your doing

just my .02
Very good points! Never even thought of that...
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that's why they had a recall on the juck bussis,they make them the chesps way and bad steel ,,buy a B/B...
If I submit my Thomas bus for the recall will they replace it with a Bluebird?
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they just tell u sorry ,but u owne it,,,, they had a bad roll over facter,if u roll it the roof would not hold up,,,it was on the news and a lot of them went thougth a flood down south here so take the ser # and fine out where the bus was shipped too,,all bus companys has records of sales.



oh I see that u from my old stomping ground,,,,,i was from towson,and baltimore
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Re: Ugh, the not square Thomas buses.

I could not find any info on Thomas buses having those problems...are you sure you're not thinking of the Carpenters made in the early 90's in Mitchell factory? Those had bad welds in the roof structure, but only the Mitchell factory buses had these issues. http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/b...rBus/index.htm
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I could not find any info on Thomas buses having those problems...are you sure you're not thinking of the Carpenters made in the early 90's in Mitchell factory? Those had bad welds in the roof structure, but only the Mitchell factory buses had these issues. http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/b...rBus/index.htm
you are correct and these are the pictures which show the differences in the buses
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I had to pop your cork ,,,but carputer bus is a sub div of Thomas bus div... there are four bus makers,,1-,B/B,2-,Gillion, 3-Thomas/carputer/ward/ there is a another bus company.in cal that's makes a bus


the reson I know this is I worked for B/B fort valley Ga and we would get in others makes for trade in....and would have to get parts and on there boxes was Thomas carputer ward school bus div
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