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Old 07-28-2014, 03:31 PM   #11
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We plan on traveling to festivals and vending food out of us bus
Been there, done that, I shoulda made a t-shirt....

Lorna up there is my Mum, ask her what all's involved in building a kitchen to spec for use in the food service industry (hey, I just helped build the dang thing, she's the one that designed and planned everything out). Plan it out to TEXAS standards, they're the hardest to pass inspection in the industry and if you're going to build a commercial kitchen you might as well build it right. Food vending is hard work, like running a regular restaurant with the added 'fun' of having to break everything back down and pack it all back up again and move it. Depending on what you'll be cooking you can run anywhere from a 30 minute set-up-break-down time to a 4 hour or more set-up and break down.

And most health inspectors do NOT like a community kitchen (commercial AND residential use).

And it's nice not to be the youngest on the board anymore. *Dances*
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:46 PM   #12
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... vending food out of us bus ...
I doubt it. You are NOT allowed to "share" a commercial kitchen with a home kitchen.
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:56 PM   #13
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... vending food out of us bus ...
I doubt it. You are NOT allowed to "share" a commercial kitchen with a home kitchen.
Told'ja so.
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:47 PM   #14
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... vending food out of us bus ...
I doubt it. You are NOT allowed to "share" a commercial kitchen with a home kitchen.
Told'ja so.
There are always ways around the system ;)
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Ya ain't gonna be happy with that all-in-one, mate. I have one. I hate it. Only good thing about it when I'm sick and got, uh, stuff coming out both ends.

TMI. Sorry.

I do like the sliding shower head, though. I'm a shortass (I'm friggin' WEE) and was looking into getting one of those for the Camper. And, uh, 'scuse me while I hug the moss mat. I miss moss. *Snugs*

Of all your plans, I like number 2 best. The bunkbeds can be converted to an office at a later date when you're no longer entertaining/rearing kids and would be good for extra storage.

I have a massively weird floorplan in the works, if I can get it to pass my Architect's specs (and she's not happy with some of my ideas shhhhhhhhh oh hi, mum, didn't see ya there. ). I have no intentions of entertaining people (Sis and her Fiance can go sleep in a hotel, they'll be happier that way, I swear it and they need to stay AWAY from my art supplies! NO TOUCHING! That's WET! I don't care it looks dry that's still wet!).
Do you have pictures of your bus?!
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:10 PM   #16
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There are always ways around the system ;)
In that case I ain't buying ANY food you vend. Sorry, mate, but with my fragile gut flora I just can't take that risk.

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Do you have pictures of your bus?!
No, I don't have a bus yet. Can't buy one until I head back East (I'm STUCK in New Mexico. GET ME OUTTA HERE!). I'll probably get it from Alto. Or a Florida school district. I have all kinds of plans drawn up, though. Most of it based on a mix of Gypsy Vardo and South Carolina Seaside decor with little touches of the Caribbean.

And the infamous pontoons. Can't forget those.
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There are always ways around the system ;)
In that case I ain't buying ANY food you vend. Sorry, mate, but with my fragile gut flora I just can't take that risk.

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Do you have pictures of your bus?!
No, I don't have a bus yet. Can't buy one until I head back East (I'm STUCK in New Mexico. GET ME OUTTA HERE!). I'll probably get it from Alto. Or a Florida school district. I have all kinds of plans drawn up, though. Most of it based on a mix of Gypsy Vardo and South Carolina Seaside decor with little touches of the Caribbean.

And the infamous pontoons. Can't forget those.
That's okay. Hope it all works out for you and I'm curious to see your plans!!
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No worries, Lorraine, there will plenty of pictures when I get around to starting my own build thread.

Because we just love pictures. Love them. Lots. Seriously. It's like we have a hard on for pictures. Of buses.

Even the FBI thinks we're nutters.
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No there are not. You have never vended food have you? Before you can vend food, your kitchen/food trailer/food tent must pass a Health Dept Inspection. You have to be able to pass an inspection at any time they decide to inspect. Some places require that you have a commissary (cheap one is $300 per month and run up to $600 per month last I checked). You try to pay off Health Dept inspector and they will shut you down. Festivals are even stricter than street vending. You fail an inspection at a festival, the festival/event will not refund your money. You don't show up at a festival/event, you forfeit your money. In some states, you must have a food mangers license (mine is from TX). Not free either. Then there is the insurance. It's a special policy that you get from specialty insurance outfits, not State Farm type places. Some states (like TX) require you be insured. some festivals/events require that you be insured even when you are in a state that does not require you to be insured. You will need to be permitted (and inspected) for each state. For festivals, you can get a temporary short-term permit. Festivals aren't cheap. To figure out how much you can spend to get into a festival, you have to figure out how much food you can REALISTICALLY sling in one hour. Then you figure out how much profit you make off your food. Then you multiply the profit per hours until you hit the amount of time it will take for you to clear your festival costs (permits, festival setup fee, electrician if you need, supplies for the entire festival, gas to/from event, overnight stay fee... often a nearby campground, sales taxes that you have to collect and remit to each state, monies paid to helper because you can't work a long festival with one person or sometimes two). After all that, then you start figuring your profit.

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/Resta...Forum-f44.aspx this forum is sorta divided into two sections, but not really. The street food vendors post in both forums. The one for hot dog vendors isn't just hot dog vendors. Before you ask any questions, try reading... a lot.

BTW, we vended food from 2009 - 2012 in NC, GA, TX & NM (twice). We vended M-F on the street plus worked festivals, auctions and set up at the pit of a racetrack (that was a long day). We could and have passed surprise health inspections at anytime that we were open. We had a mobile kitchen. It was tough to get approved when we did. It's gotten harder and more expensive in most states. There are still a few states that are pretty loose about regs. Most states will fine you up the butt if you do not comply, either deliberately or accidentally. If you are inclined to vend on the side of the road, be aware that some states (like GA) do not allow you to vend food within the road right-of-way. Which can be a pretty long ways off the road.

You CAN use the kitchen in your bus IF you have a separate kitchen that is only used for food prep AND closed off from the rest of your bus with it's own separate entrance door (to the outside not to the indie of your living quarters). And then there is the ventilation and materials used in the construction of the commercial kitchen. Many Health Depts (HDs) require that you only use commercial appliances. Food Regulations tend to be interpreted differently by different HD's in the same state. Cross state lines and it gets really different.
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