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Old 05-24-2016, 01:54 PM   #21
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One more very important welding note...

Never do any welding on any vehicle with any computers on board without disconnecting the battery! You can turn a couple of grand worth of gizmos into toast in a heartbeat. Transmissions are especially susceptible...and expensive.
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Old 05-24-2016, 02:17 PM   #22
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"I would like to add, That the centered part does not apply to the web of a frame. but the 3/4 inch from the shoulder does."

For clarification, Is Nat saying it's ok to drill in the web as long as your more than 3/4in away from the shoulder??

No that is me. Nat only addressed the flange due to the original question I asked.
It is widely accepted and has not been debated that you can drill holes in the web of modern MDT/HDT bus frames.
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Someone should have told Champion. They welded their back bumper and rear backsplash to the Ford chassis on my bus. As did I when I made my rear bumper/trailer hitch.
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Someone should have told Champion. They welded their back bumper and rear backsplash to the Ford chassis on my bus. As did I when I made my rear bumper/trailer hitch.
Im not sure why you welded your trailer hitch to the frame, there is no reason to.

I think the point isn't you cant weld to the frame, but that if you say you can then people who shouldn't be welding something so important weld the **** out of the middle section of the frame and weaken it.

I specify the middle of the frame as it is most likely to crack there.

IMO there is not a good reason to weld to a vehicle frame other than laziness.
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Someone should have told Champion. They welded their back bumper and rear backsplash to the Ford chassis on my bus. As did I when I made my rear bumper/trailer hitch.
They proably had them stressed relieved/ heat treated afterwards,that what we do when we weld on jet engine parts.
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And was that even the vehicle frame or a sub-frame assembly? Alot of those cutaway buses and RVs the chassis manufacturer frame ends at the rear drive axle and everything back is sub-assembly from the body upfitter. My granddad was limited in the size hitch he could get because it would be mounted to a sub-frame, not the chassis frame... Anything bigger than his bass boat and they were concerned it would eventually torque the back end off the rig!
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