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Old 04-02-2016, 03:38 AM   #11
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Thank you for the replies! I just learned a lot! I have a couple of follow up questions. The link above costs $1100-1200 for parts. Anyone know how much labor costs for an in frame could be?
Also, this guy was saying that since an in frame is one of the most costly maintenance, he thought it may be more worthwhile to find a bus who had already had a in frame, even if there were more miles or engine time. My question is, if I buy a bus that has had an in frame, how long till the next huge maintenance?
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:03 AM   #12
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I don't consider an in-frame as maintenance. I think of maintenance as oil changes, fuel and air filter changes, transmission service, brakes and the like. Maybe others see it different. I think of an in frame as an engine rebuild.

You are definitely better off with a bus that has had an in frame done.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:21 AM   #13
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similar question here.....

i see rebuilt a cummin 6bt for ~ $3500
low mileage used 6bt-s for about $1500-2000


so, would you rebuild the motor you have or simply swap with one of the above options?
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:23 AM   #14
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If you've got a Cummins, then you're pulling the motor. Rebuilt > Used.
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:16 AM   #15
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Thanks! Be patient with me as I have some more follow-up questions for this thread. Locally here in southeast texas, the vast majority of buses available are all FE buses, mostly all International, either with AmTran, Bluebird or Thomas chassis. I have been told to stay away from the DT360 engines. I have a choice of a group of 1990 mixed Internationals and some 1995/1996 mixed internationals. If I have a choice of the year for the same engine that has had an in frame, should I care about 1990 versus 1996?
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Why avoid the DT360? Its as good as the 5.9 Cummins but capable of in-frame rebuild. Durable little suckers that do okay on fuel economy too.
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:42 PM   #17
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95/96 had a Bosch P-pump if they weren't a DT466E. That would be my choice.
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Old 04-02-2016, 03:32 PM   #18
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Excellent choice East coast CB, I too like the Dt's.
Fast, cheap, & easy to find parts!
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