View Poll Results: What kind of fuel are you using?
Gasoline 50 20.08%
Diesel 162 65.06%
Propane 17 6.83%
Veggie Oil 17 6.83%
Other 3 1.20%
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Old 04-24-2004, 09:32 PM   #11
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Since Waste vegetable oil is free, and is not very labor intensive to filter,
WHAT WAS I THINKING !! This is by far the worse part of the project.

I'll keep working on innovative ways to make the process less miserable.
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Old 04-25-2004, 12:36 AM   #12
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The other day I chucked an old swimming pool filter in the garbage. It was from one of those above ground pools. It was a paper cartrige type filter. I bet one of those puppies would work great. Best part is they usually have the pump included. I don't know if the pump would be able to handle the thick oil though. The filter should still work ok. Maybe you could find a hot tub/pool repair shop that has some old filters they would give you. Just a thought
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Old 11-02-2004, 04:48 PM   #13
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The major concerns with engine damage are the acidity of the oil and in direct injection engines the compression I haven't heard any solutions for DI but for acidityyou could add a light base, home brewing of biodiesel uses lye if you have diesel to start and 50% biodiesel 50% Deacidified WVO to run on in your heated tank (for less viscosity) I've heard that that sort of thing might mitigate the acid damage, http://www.journeytoforever.com has some great info on diesel conversion and SVO\WVO in addition Biodiesel.
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Old 11-07-2004, 12:37 AM   #14
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i've since found a very good method for on the fly filtering of oil. IT's still a bit of an icky project, but the price is right. IF i fill the twin 30 gallon tanks on teh bus i'm usually set for at least a week of partying. In the summer, i can filter oil to 20 microns @ 5 gpm or faster. I use whole house water filters and two different 110 volt pumps. I should connect a few filters together in paralell so i dont' have to stop filtering to change filters quite so often. I get between 5 and 35 gallons of oil from one filter depnding on the oil and other unknown factors. Filters are about 2 bucks each.

With this method, i don't have to bring home dirty oil and spend a great deal of time trying to get it filtered. I don't have the patients to filter oil through a bag filter using only gravity.

The mercedes i'm currently working on needs to have better filtration. The plan is to have two heated tanks. One for 20 micron pre-filtered oil, the other for oil that is filtered to 5 microns. I plan to push the hot pre-filtered oil through a series of three filters. 20 micron, 10 micron, and 5 micron. I have a small 12 volt eletric pump that will work quite well for this project. I can even filter while driving.

At the restaurant, i should be able to pre-filter oil to 20 microns and put it into the "dirty tank" With the engine running at a fast idle, the 20 micron oil should be heated sufficiently to be pumped through the other filters to the clean tank immediately. This way i'll have 10 gallons of clean oil, and 10 gallons of dirty (20 micron) oil with the ability to transfer the 20 micron oil in to the clean tank while driving.

Hopefully i'l lbe finished with the conversion next week...i'll take lots of photo's
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Old 03-05-2005, 01:58 PM   #15
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question. Do you heat the oil before filtering raw WVO and do you pump from the top of the barrel down to reduce the amount of junk that gets into your filters. Also please do show us how you set everything up from begining to end.
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Old 04-06-2005, 12:23 PM   #16
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I went with a Gas Bus so I wouldn't have to hunt down a diesel station in the middle of nowhere
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:07 AM   #17
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Diesel

I would have gone either way... I like the mileage of the diesel, and the (assumedly) lower cost of the gas engine.

It really all came down to noise. And the diesel is such a sweet sound that I had to get that.



It just came that way, and seems to be in great shape.

I've been told that it can be worked on by any International dealer--it's a Bluebird with a Cummins 555 ci and Allison tranny. Any truth to that rumor? I like the idea that almost any truck stop could help me out in a pinch.

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Old 02-25-2006, 01:52 PM   #18
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My bus was setup to run on Propane - 83 gallon tank, and either a factory setup (or a really good aftermarket). Oregon schools started running propane in 1983 - my bus is from there, and is also an '83. I like the smell - like a big forklift. And the water vapor from the tail pipe is not nearly as annoying as the black cloud that used to come from my Detroit 6-71T in my other truck. Of course, finding a filling station is sometimes a bugger..... and Washington state says "thank you for using a clean burning, more expensive fuel. Now, bend over so we can stick you for extra licensing fees for using propane". I know - they don't get the "road tax" on propane, but it would be cheaper to pay the 23 cents a gallon for the amount of driving I would do, than the honkin' big tariff they charge annually. Oh well....
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Old 04-08-2006, 06:15 PM   #19
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Hey kevin i dont know if youve found this out yet but here in washington all you have to tell the license dept. is that its gas and thell change it in there records (they dont do inspections anymore to see if its actually been converted to gas from propane) i just told them when i went in to license my bus that it was gonna be gas and really propane is a type of gas LOL i didnt actually say it was gas so technically i didnt lie LOL because i have been wanting to convert it to at least part time gas and then you wont have to pay that extra for it being propane
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Old 04-08-2006, 06:26 PM   #20
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I did think of that. "Is this a diesel?" "No, <mumble>propane</mumble> gas". I still have the sticker on it that says Propane on the back (supposedly you can't get fuel in a motor vehicle without it.... but the fuel station folk don't know that).

It would have worked, but I would need an emissions test for an '83 vehicle. I even tried to get one.... (I LIKE to mess with people's heads, I guess).

"I need to test the fuel cap - where do you put in the gasoline?"
"I don't"
"What do you do when you run out of fuel?"
"I put in propane"
"Oh.... well, can I test the cap to the propane?"
"Sure... you can try. See - right here, will your tester fit this?"

"I'll get the supervisor....."

So.... he told me that they don't TEST propane only vehicles - and I did not want to do the inspection thing - so I figured screw it - just pay the money and do it right and move on. Hey, I figure that in the big scheme of things, a few hundred bucks is my share of road damage.... I don't pay anything extra in road taxes for the electric car (yet). It all evens out.
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