View Poll Results: What kind of fuel are you using?
Gasoline 50 20.08%
Diesel 162 65.06%
Propane 17 6.83%
Veggie Oil 17 6.83%
Other 3 1.20%
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:29 PM   #31
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Re: What kind of fuel are you using?

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How do you keep the beer and sediment from mixing while you are going down the road? I am bidding on a bus tomorrow that I am planning to convert to a microbrewery. What are the legalities of that, can one serve homebrew from a bus and charge money for it?
The short answer is... NO!!

You can make a certain amount each year without any licenses. I think 200 gallons. But if you plan on selling it you need to be a licensed brewery/winery. If you plan on selling it yourself in your own "establishment" then I'm sure you'll need licenses for on-premise alcohol sales.

What you do on an amateur level and share with your friends (for free) shouldn't be too much of an issue.

That being said, I also wondered how you deal with the sediment, etc. I don't see how you'd get quality product in a moving vehicle!! But sometimes it's not about quality!

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Old 03-11-2009, 09:46 PM   #32
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Re: What kind of fuel are you using?

just got my bus, and am planning the conversion to veggie this spring. i have a 98 dodge 2500 that i did a test burn with last fall, and it worked great. so, i am planning on the conversion for the bus. i am going to have a second tank built to fit the drivers side. 24"x12"x as long as i want - almost.
i have plans on a heat exchanger mounted on the frame, as well as a heated filter, tube in hose fuel line, and a tank heater. it will all be using prestone for heating. 2 seperate 3-way valves, so i can change the supply, then after a pre-determained time, switch the return so that the tank contamination will be kept to a minimum. I have a good supply of oil, so i hope to have a free summer of travel.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:26 PM   #33
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Re: What kind of fuel are you using?

Just got my first Skoolie. She's a diesel for now but I work at the world's leading company in making fryers, and they have offered me ALL the oil I can handle. It's wvo. but I'm also lucky that I have acsess to the best filtering stuff on the market.
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:57 PM   #34
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Re: What kind of fuel are you using?

Ok let me start off by claiming to know absolutely JACK about diesel engines and WVO and converting them from one to another. So... possible stupid question coming...BUT I will ask anyway...
If you have a diesel engine and convert it to run on WVO. Say your on a trip and dont know where to get the WVO but there is a truck stop right there and you need fuel. Can you just fill your tank with diesel and keep on truckin? Is it ok to switch back and forth?
Isnt running Biodiesel the same as running WVO? Just that someone else is doing the filtering for you right???
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:59 PM   #35
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Re: What kind of fuel are you using?

Re-reading the previous post from Ben2go I think I might be able to answer my own question in that yes you can use either one?
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:09 AM   #36
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So my engine, the classic Cummins Triple Nickel that everyone likes so much as an older diesel, has a tendency to almost stall when one goes from pressing the accelerator to quickly braking, as you might exiting the highway. I've figured out how to "feather" the accelerator so as to not starve the engine, as this is what seems to be happening. My mechanic says it's something to do with how the fuel supply is supposed to be more gradually reduced by something that is worn by age and somewhat expensive to access/replace. Well, I had stopped using diesel fuel treatment, thinking it wasn't really going to do anything for me. WRONG. I started using it again and it changed the performance of the engine pretty dramatically. Smoother, and rarely wants to stall anymore. Lubrosity or somesuch increased, supposedly mileage, too. I'm sure there are several acceptable additives, but I'm using Standyne now:
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:23 AM   #37
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I wonder if anyone has tried using biodiesel. In my skoolie dreams, I dream of using a clean fuel without too much conversion hassle; biodiesel might be the solution.

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If you use used veggie oil, the animal fats will eat the fuel pump and any other metal parts up within a year or two from conversion. I know because I had an M109A3 Shop Van and ran veggie guts and that was the end result - along with a $2K repair bill. My Deuce was a multi-fuel capable of running on anything, and she did! However, the acid in the animal fat can be bleached out with a combination of water soluable chemicals. Flip side being you cannot get all the water out of the fuel. This creates fuel injector problems. Water has a nasty habit of turning into steam when above 212*F. With injectors being 800*+ when at temperature, the steam tends to blow them apart. Trust me I know this first hand as well. I learned quite a bit from the veggie fuel guys. These reasons and many others are why veggie oil is not an easily marketable idea and still remains in the R&D stage.
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So my engine, the classic Cummins Triple Nickel that everyone likes so much as an older diesel, has a tendency to almost stall when one goes from pressing the accelerator to quickly braking, as you might exiting the highway. I've figured out how to "feather" the accelerator so as to not starve the engine, as this is what seems to be happening. My mechanic says it's something to do with how the fuel supply is supposed to be more gradually reduced by something that is worn by age and somewhat expensive to access/replace. Well, I had stopped using diesel fuel treatment, thinking it wasn't really going to do anything for me. WRONG. I started using it again and it changed the performance of the engine pretty dramatically. Smoother, and rarely wants to stall anymore. Lubrosity or somesuch increased, supposedly mileage, too. I'm sure there are several acceptable additives, but I'm using Standyne now:
http://www.stanadyne.com/view.php?id=45

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Try adding Prolong Engine Treatment in the crankcase. Also blend in Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel and the cylinder heads will thank you for decades to come! Lucas fuel treatment will lube the fuel pump since the refineries took out the main ingredient of Lucas in their diesel fuel about 10 or so years ago.
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Re: What kind of fuel are you using?

very interesting topic.

I have a couple diesels. one my liteace, other my bus.

so other then filtering the oil, what does one have to add to it for it to run like diesel?
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:25 PM   #40
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very interesting topic.

I have a couple diesels. one my liteace, other my bus.

so other then filtering the oil, what does one have to add to it for it to run like diesel?
Heat.

Maybe some #2 diesel also depending on how cold it is.

I've run an old cummins 6bt for 300K miles on wvo, Mecedes 617s on wvo for many thousands of miles. The key is good filtration and dewatering. Time is your friend. I collect using a 40 gallon sucker (old water htr), dump it back at the ranch and let it sit for a week before I pump from the top. From the settling tank, it is pumped using a small blck chevy oil pump driven by a cordless drill, to an elevated drum with a large fabric cone filter. I let it sit in that tank after it has trickled thru the filter for a couple of days. Then I drain the bottom inch off to collect any water that has settled and into another drum.
It sits there for a da or two and is then pumped thru a 10 micron filter to a clean fuel holding tank. I have two of these 55 gal tanks which I fill the vehicle from. I never pump from a tank that has been stirred up. Always let it settle and pump from the top. A hot skillet test is done to test for suspended water.

It sounds complex but I spend no more than 1 hour a week on the process. I mostly run wvo in the summer time, a blend when it starts to cool below 60f and diesel in the winter. Been doing this for many years.
We're hoping to get a bus converted and on the road running wvo by next summer. Still shopping for the right diesel bus.
Found a good one but the seller has title issues.

Anyone coming thru north Texas needing some wvo let me know. I can pretty much always spare a few gallons and there's a place to camp at the ranch.
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