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Old 09-08-2015, 07:18 PM   #1
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What might be holding the interior metal panels in?

Sorry if this has been answered - I searched the forums and could only find debates about whether or not to remove these panels in the first place.

Anyways, at the moment I am trying to remove the silver metal interior panels from my 1997 39' International Type C bus. I have either unscrewed or grinded off the stripped screws all visible hardware from the panels. I can lift up and easily fit my hand on the left, bottom, and right of these panels. The problem is, something is holding them in at the top.

See picture (not my bus - just some random picture I found on the internet):



  • Red arrows - this is where the panels are stuck at. I have tried hitting one from the top with a hammer and it doesn't budge. I can't see any rivets/other hardware that might be holding them in. The top inch and a half or so is hidden under this little lip that is underneath each window.
  • Blue Arrows: example of the lip that is holding them in. They are pointing to the top here because in this random picture I found it looks like the panels & that lip had been removed already.


What is left under this lip that is holding the panels in? Are they glued? Do I just have to remove that lip with the panel altogether or do I cut the top of the panels? I plan on scrapping these panels so I am not worried about damaging them. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:31 PM   #2
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Is your bus fully International, or is it an International chassis with a Thomas body?
Mine is a 1997 Thomas and I ended up cutting at that point since I had no desire to reuse the panels. I can't remember if they were pinched under the window sill, or bent around the angle iron below the sill. Either way, they weren't coming out without first dismantling the window frames.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:33 PM   #3
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Ah, I just saw in your profile that you have an AmTram. It's possible that they are built similar to Thomases in that respect, but I can't say for sure.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:34 PM   #4
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Is your bus fully International, or is it an International chassis with a Thomas body?
Mine is a 1997 Thomas and I ended up cutting at that point since I had no desire to reuse the panels. I can't remember if they were pinched under the window sill, or bent around the angle iron below the sill. Either way, they weren't coming out without first dismantling the window frames.
I should have specified - mine is 1997 International 3800 with AmTran body. Good to know though. I don't want to dismantle the windows quite this early.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:22 PM   #5
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If it is like my 1997 AmTran Genesis, they are help on by a spot weld. The panels that I did remove, I used a thick putty knife and pounded through the welds from the top in between the inner and outer panels.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:51 PM   #6
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My AmTran was the same, use your angle grinder and cut them flush with the bottom of the window frame. Be careful not to cut too deep into the supports. Basically start at the end of a sheet and peel it away as your cutting that way you can tell when you've cut through the sheet.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:54 PM   #7
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And if you're going to use an angle grinder inside the bus protect those windows!
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Old 09-08-2015, 10:17 PM   #8
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Good advice Jazty. I doubt most folks realize those hot, metal "sparks" will pit glass instantly. And no...they won't buff out.
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Old 09-08-2015, 10:19 PM   #9
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Alb I have just run into the same problem aswell and posted about it on my build.

I think that I am going to end up testing using an angle grinder and seeing if that works but if not just going to get a pair of air shears and then end up grinding them smooth.

Still looking for a better way but have yet to figure out one.
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:01 AM   #10
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The details of four methods of removal can be found in this thread, in the last few pages.

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/re...s-11820-4.html

I don't feel like typing it twice.

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