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Old 02-04-2011, 02:21 PM   #11
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Re: Where to mount propane tanks

please dont mount them inside. build a bay under the bus with door outside to get to them , stay between the wheels.
here in ontario you cant mount them on the rear bumper, you have to go under the bus.

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Old 02-05-2011, 08:40 AM   #12
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Re: Where to mount propane tanks

My conversion [not my work!] has the horizontal tank inside the rig, under the dinette seat. I suppose I could move it to another area, still inside, seal the interior access and cut an exterior access and vents.

Question...how do they fill a permanently mounted tank. When I fill my tank, I just take it out and they put it on the scales and fill it. How do they judge the amount?

One time they overfilled it, so I left it outside until it quit venting, then cracked the valve for a few seconds just to be sure.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:53 AM   #13
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Okay okay, will put them under Hope to get to a point we won't ever need 'em but that's maybe a good year off after I get the bus. IF I EVER FIND ONE ... *sobs*
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Old 02-05-2011, 01:11 PM   #14
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Re: Where to mount propane tanks

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My conversion [not my work!] has the horizontal tank inside the rig, under the dinette seat. I suppose I could move it to another area, still inside, seal the interior access and cut an exterior access and vents.

Question...how do they fill a permanently mounted tank. When I fill my tank, I just take it out and they put it on the scales and fill it. How do they judge the amount?
I'm not sure if an LP station will fill your tank if it's inside the living area. No matter how well the locker is sealed and even with vents/access hatches. Ask local station propane dealer about that.

To fill a permanently mounted tank (and why we have had the one on the Class C filled once). You pull the RV up to the propane filling station. You turn everything off (engine, generators, gas appliances). The filling station fills the permanently mounted tank just like they do a big tank.

For full-timing, the permanently mounted tanks are a PITA. We started full-timing again in 2006 (been "camping" since 1979). Our first long term stay (State Park in S GA) was for 3 or 4 months and we had a propane filling station at a convenience store at the entrance to the park we were staying in. We also had several 20# LP tanks and carried two with us (at the time we had 10 20# LP tanks... we are now down to 5). We didn't want to fill the permanent mount tank because we knew what was involved (break camp). We hit every LP fill station, including a dealer to fill our little tanks. $25 was NOT a good price. We ended up going the Home Depot where they had an Amerigas tank swap for $15. Generally we refill the tanks because it's cheaper to refill rather than swap. But we do swap out tanks when one starts getting "bad" looking or when the tank expiration date starts getting close. We do watch the condition and tank date when we swap out. Back when the "old style" POLs were being phased out, we swapped all our little tanks for the new POLs. It was worth the little extra price. We also swap out tanks when the LP filling stations are closed (here they are closed from 5PM on Friday and open the following Monday at 8AM). Currently a tank swap is running about $23. To refill the same size tank cost us $14.98 including tax on Thursday. We will be using 20# LP tanks on the bus (two on an automatic changeover valve plus 1 as an extra tank). We will build another "extend-a-stay" which will allow us to use a 100# tank if we want and to also run our BBQ grill.

FYI: The places that will swap a 30# tank are few and far between. You can refill them but a swap is generally out of the question. So for full-timing/traveling that is not really a good idea unless you are carrying a 20# tank just for that. If you are never going to full-time or "long-time" (a couple months at a time rather than 24/7/365), then it is not really an issue. We were getting tanks filled in the campgrounds in TX. The big bottle trucks drove thru and made deliveries... you just set you tank at the end of your site or flagged them down to fill the permanent tanks). Slightly more than hauling the tank in to fill but only a dollar or so. We didn't have it done because we left NM with a full permanent tank PLUS 2 full 20LB tanks. That fuel lasted us from Nov to June. Electric was cheaper than LP. Word on the RV forums is that this practice is being regulated out. Reasons vary, either city government or insurance reasons have been cited.
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Old 02-05-2011, 03:09 PM   #15
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Re: Where to mount propane tanks

being able to echange 20 pound tanks was the main reason that Im not mounting a perment tank in my bus, you can go to a walmart on a sunday change ou t your tank if you really had to, that convenice is worth it to me.
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Re: Where to mount propane tanks

I ended up getting two 30lb vertical tanks as per the recommendation of the RV dealer down the road. He said the horizontal tanks were a lot more expensive. He showed me how they get mounted on the front of the A-frame for trailers and said I should just make a rack on the back of my bus bumper for the same thing. I guess he didn't think about the rear-end collision issue. At this point I have filled tanks and don't want to waste them to get smaller ones that would fit underneath.

I am thinking in the short term I may opt to create a frame cage of 16g steel to hold the tanks and adequately mount them above the rear bumper. I don't plan on using propane much and will switch to a woodstove come winter, and then for the warmer months probably find some other cooking option (solar oven or campfire?) or see if there is room in front of the rear axle and extend the wheel well into a box-shape with the tanks mounted under there instead.

Can anybody think of other options? Is it dangerous to have the tanks so close to the rear wheels? And just how close is TOO close to the rear wheel? Should I enclose the steel framing with sheet metal? I'm gonna go out right now and see if there COULD be room if I decided to go that route. If I take on that project next year all I'd need to do is remove the lower bed (for access) as I'm putting bunks on top of the wheel well. Maybe it would fit between two floor cross members and I should just move it up a bit toward the front. The two tanks would be pretty obvious, though. I'm not sure if I should just cut out the floor/wall near the stove and put it there, somehow properly enclosing it with sheet metal, etc.

The tanks were actually pulled off a camper where they actually slid underneath and pulled out from the side. I still have the rails and everything.
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My conversion [not my work!] has the horizontal tank inside the rig, under the dinette seat. I suppose I could move it to another area, still inside, seal the interior access and cut an exterior access and vents.

Question...how do they fill a permanently mounted tank. When I fill my tank, I just take it out and they put it on the scales and fill it. How do they judge the amount?

One time they overfilled it, so I left it outside until it quit venting, then cracked the valve for a few seconds just to be sure.
they make high pressure hoses, and fittings for remote fill applications, go to a propane dealer for help. I purchased all my stuff for that online.
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