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Old 12-09-2017, 09:13 AM   #1
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Which Bus to Buy? Getting Closer to Decision!

Hi Guys, after much research I'm giving a serious look to the Thomas HDX with the CAT C7. I am still busy working on my credit and plan to finance a nicer bus and probably from one of the big bus dealerships like National Bus Sales or American Bus Sales. Where I am at currently is narrowing down the choices to what suites my needs. I found this 2008 HDX at American Bus and spoke with a salesman on the phone yesterday. Unfortunately they are in OK and I am in Arizona. Still, this bus has just 103K miles and has cruise control which I really like on top of all the other features it has which in my limited knowledge so far, seem to be good.

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Old 12-09-2017, 10:10 AM   #2
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I wouldn't waste my money on a bus above 2007 because that's when they began coming with all sorts of emissions headaches. There's a reason the school district dumped it at only 10 years old.

Mine is an '01 IH with the T444 engine. None of that emissions nonsense to worry about.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:51 AM   #3
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Why buy newer? Newer just means more problems.
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Old 12-09-2017, 11:22 AM   #4
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You might want to try Midwest Transit, of AAA Bus Sales (AZ) for well prepped buses at better prices than National Bus will quote.

National Bus is just down the road from here. They are, for the most part, a dealership that stocks newer buses that they sell directly to schools. They are not cheap.

Both the two I mentioned have a good reputation for decent buses at better prices.

The best value seems to be in buses from 1990 to 1999, more or less. That's where the bargains are, but that is also where the trouble is to be found. If you want a bus that has been checked and prepped, a dealer is not a bad option. You will, of course, pay more.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:44 PM   #5
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I would also stay away from the newer emissions controlled engines.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:24 PM   #6
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This is exactly why I come to these great forums :::

Thank you all so much for saving me emission related nightmares! I know a little about this from a non bus related topic, my 2005 Ford Super Duty 6.0L engine... Another story for another time ::

So here's what I am thinking I have determined for myself. For one thing, the straight 6 engine whether CAT or Cummins. The long flat faced bus because I need all the room I can get. Air brakes because I have learned they are much safer & finally that I like the the dealership plan because I want financing and a power train warranty which some charge extra for but I'm ok with that within reason.

That being said, I will see what's out there in the 2007 or older range.

Also to Twigg, I have desktop icons set for both AAA and Midwest and check them regularly. I also found an Arizona dealer called Canyon State.
I need to get over to an AZ dealership and start kicking some actual tires and take a drive as I have yet to get behind the wheel of a full sized bus..
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Thank you all so much for saving me emission related nightmares! I know a little about this from a non bus related topic, my 2005 Ford Super Duty 6.0L engine... Another story for another time ::

So here's what I am thinking I have determined for myself. For one thing, the straight 6 engine whether CAT or Cummins. The long flat faced bus because I need all the room I can get. Air brakes because I have learned they are much safer & finally that I like the the dealership plan because I want financing and a power train warranty which some charge extra for but I'm ok with that within reason.

That being said, I will see what's out there in the 2007 or older range.

Also to Twigg, I have desktop icons set for both AAA and Midwest and check them regularly. I also found an Arizona dealer called Canyon State.
I need to get over to an AZ dealership and start kicking some actual tires and take a drive as I have yet to get behind the wheel of a full sized bus..
Also, while AAA do not publish prices on their site, they do put their buses on Phoenix Craigslist, and they are negotiable.
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:33 PM   #8
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Hey I noticed no prices and that is very good information... thanks, M
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I bought my 2003 HDX from Midwest Transit for a paltry(?) $8K. It was clean and ran like a champ for my trip from Kankakee, IL to Billings, MT.
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Old 12-09-2017, 06:54 PM   #10
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Yes, I am sure that the HDX like yours is what I want. I like the insect-like outer mirrors because they seem to be a good upgrade I noticed on buses from way back. They look like they offer the best side rear views. When did they begin those mirrors? Perhaps about 2001??
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