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Old 07-20-2015, 08:10 PM   #41
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see, you came in here this morning and was about to throw it all away.....




No. Resigned to it looking crap. I put off doing this until I had to. Pretty much the same as cutting curved sections for the wall tops. They turned out quite well.

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Old 07-20-2015, 09:41 PM   #42
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So... Has anybody tinted windshields? I could probably tint the top foot or so without irking law enforcement
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Rules in the US are pretty strict about windshield film. There should be an "AS1" marking at both sides of the windshield; tint is allowed above that line but not below it. Tint rules are strict for commercial vehicles, too: no tint at all on the front windows.

SolarGard makes an interesting film called Ultragard UV that is of interest to commercial users (ie, trucking industry) because it's almost clear (89% VLT) yet rejects a little heat and 99% of UV. It also can help contain the glass fragments in the case of window breakage. It's appealing because of the higher rate of melanoma on drivers' left arms as compared to their right arms.. I get the idea that even this nearly-clear stuff wouldn't be allowed for side windows in some places..

..but, since I like to live dangerously (hah!) I intend to use this Ultragard film on my windshields. The windshield should already be blocking UV, but I kind of trust the film to do a better job of it. Rejecting some heat is a nice perk too. I wouldn't actually tint the windshield in part because it's not legal anywhere (the Ultragard probably isn't either), but also in large part I think it'd be dangerous because I do a lot of night driving. Sure wish I could come up with a good way to put some 35-50% VLT film on the windshield during the day, then roll it up and set it aside for night driving! I'd do that in a heartbeat.
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Old 07-20-2015, 10:09 PM   #44
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I suppose putting a roll down tint foir the top would work too
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I was gonna be a smart ass and post one of those pics of those green school bus sunvisors.... so, I googled it and found this instead...

Tell me if anything in her statement stands out to you...
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LARIMER COUNTY, CO – The woman who drove right into a school bus is talking about what she saw the moments before impact.
Ashlie Dickerson’s car was wedged under the school bus. She says she was driving her normal route to work but she normally doesn’t see a bus in that area. But when turned onto the typical road she takes she said she was overwhelmed by sun glare.
“You’ve got sun right there on the horizon, That’s all I can remember up to the accident,” said Dickerson…






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LARIMER COUNTY, CO - A serious crash involving a school bus and passenger vehicle on Bandana Lane and County Road 82 in Larimer County left three students and two adults injured Friday morning.
The driver of a Toyota slammed into the back of the Poudre School District bus as it was stopped waiting for a passenger around 7 a.m…
According to police, the three students and the bus driver all suffered minor injuries but were transported to the hospital via ambulance as a precaution.
The Colorado State Patrol says excessive speed was not a factor, neither were drugs or alcohol. Investigators are looking for the cause.
Dickerson's family told 9NEWS the sun was in her eyes. The glare that time of day affected what she could see…


Serious crash involving school bus in Larimer County injures 5
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:03 PM   #49
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Lol sounds like she was doing something other than driving!
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SC window tint law (unverified)

South Carolina Tint Law

"Section 56-5-5015. (A) No person may operate a motor vehicle that is required to be registered in this State on any public highway, road, or street that has a sunscreen device on the windshield, the front side wings, and side windows adjacent to the right and left of the driver and windows to the rear of the driver that do not meet the requirements of this section. If no after-factory installed sunscreen device has been added to the window surface, the provisions of this section regarding light transmittance do not apply.

(B) A sunscreening device must be nonreflective and may not be red, yellow, or amber in color. A sunscreening device may be used only along the top of the windshield and may not extend downward beyond the AS1 line. If the AS1 line is not visible, no sunscreening device may be applied to the windshield.

(C) A single sunscreening device may be installed on the side wings or side windows, or both, located at the immediate right and left of the driver and the side windows behind the driver. The sunscreening device must be nonreflective and the combined light transmission of the sunscreening device with the factory or manufacturer installed sunscreening material must not be less than twenty-seven percent.

(D) (1) A sunscreening device to be applied to the rear-most window must be nonreflective and have a light transmission of not less than twenty percent. If a sunscreening device is used on the rear-most window, one right and one left outside rearview mirror is required.

(2) Beginning January 1, 1993, a single sunscreening device to be applied to the rear-most window must be nonreflective and the combined light transmission of the sunscreening device with the factory or manufacturer installed sunscreening material must not be less than twenty-seven percent. If a sunscreening device is used on the rear-most window, one right and one left outside rearview mirror is required.

(3) A motor vehicle with a sunscreening device which complied with the requirements of item (1) at the time of installation is not considered to be in violation of this section on January 1, 1993, so long as the original sunscreen device is in place.

(E) Each vehicle equipped with an after-factory sunscreening device, whether installed by a consumer or professional window tinter, at all times must bear a certificate of compliance. The certificate of compliance must be of a size and form prescribed by the department. Each certificate of compliance must be properly attached to the vehicle on the inside and lower right hand corner of each window containing an after-factory installed sunscreen device and must contain the following information:

(1) the percentage of light transmission allowed by the sunscreening device;

(2) the identity of the installer by name, address, and telephone number; and

(3) date of installation.

(F) Sunscreening devices offered for sale or use in South Carolina must include instructions with the product or material for proper installation. The manufacturer of the sunscreen device offered for sale or use in South Carolina must provide the certificate of compliance specified in subsection (E) and instructions for affixing it to the sunscreen device.

(G) No person may:

(1) offer for sale or for use any sunscreening product or material for motor vehicle use not in compliance with this section;

(2) install any sunscreening product or material on vehicles titled for use on public roads without permanently affixing the certificate of compliance specified in this section.

A professional window tinter who violates the provisions of subsections (E) or (G) is guilty of a misdemeanor triable in magistrate's court and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both, for each offense. A consumer who violates the provisions of subsection (E) or (G) is guilty of a misdemeanor triable in magistrate's court and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than two hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than thirty days for each offense.

(H) The provisions of this section do not apply to a motor vehicle registered in this State in the name of a person, or the person's legal guardian, who has an affidavit signed by a physician or an optometrist licensed to practice in this State that states that the person has a physical condition that makes it necessary to equip the motor vehicle with sunscreening material which would be of a light transmittance or luminous reflectance in violation of this section. The affidavit must be in the vehicle at all times during its operation and must be produced at the request of a law enforcement officer. The affidavit must be updated every two years.

(I) The light transmittance requirement of this section applies to windows behind the driver on pickup trucks, but does not apply to windows behind the driver on other trucks, buses, trailers, mobile homes, multipurpose passenger vehicles, and recreational vehicles.

(J) As used in this section:

(1) `Sunscreening device' means a film material or device that is designed to be used in conjunction with motor vehicle safety glazing materials for reducing the effects of the sun.

(2) `Light transmission' means the ratio of the amount of total visible light to pass through a product or material to the amount of the total light falling on the product or material.

(3) `Luminous reflectant' means the ratio of the amount of total light that is reflected outward by the product or material to the amount of the total light falling on the product or materials.

(4) `Nonreflective' means a product or material primarily designed to absorb light rather than to reflect it.

(5) `Multipurpose passenger vehicle' means a vehicle with motive power designed to carry ten persons or less which is constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for occasional off-road operation.

(6) `Motor home' means a vehicular unit designed to provide temporary living quarters built into and an integral part of or permanently attached to a self-propelled motor vehicle chassis.

(7) `Truck' means a vehicle with motive power designed primarily for the transportation of property or special purpose equipment.

( `Bus' means a vehicle with motive power designed for carrying more than ten persons.

(9) `Manufacturer' means a person engaged in the manufacturing or assembling of sunscreening products or materials designed to be used in conjunction with vehicle glazing materials for the purpose of reducing the effects of the sun.

(10) `Recreational vehicle' means a self-propelled or towed vehicle that is equipped to serve as temporary living quarters for recreational, camping, or travel purposes, and is used solely as a family/personal conveyance.

(11) `AS1' means a glazing material position marking as defined in 49 Code of Federal Regulations, Section 571.205, Subsection S5.1.1.

(12) `Trailer' means every vehicle without motive power designed to carry persons or property, and for being drawn by a motor vehicle and constructed so that no part of its weight rests upon the towing vehicle.

(13) `Professional window tinter' means a person who installs sunscreening devices for profit.

(K) A person who owns or operates a motor vehicle in violation of the provisions of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor triable in magistrate's court and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than two hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than thirty days.

(L) The department shall promulgate regulations prescribing enforcement, including, but not limited to, the procedure and mechanism for testing light transmittance. Inspection stations must not be required to test light transmittance for purposes of enforcement of this section."
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Lol sounds like she was doing something other than driving!

the thing that stands out to me, is the fact she could even make a statement.... There have been less violent wrecks with 5 dead people inside.

limousine got T-boned this week in jersey, 4 women died, and it didn't look that violent

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oops, New York, not New Jersey
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I've seen cars get their tops cut off at the point where the windows start by going under HGVs. Driver and passenger duck and are still alive.
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I've seen cars get their tops cut off at the point where the windows start by going under HGVs. Driver and passenger duck and are still alive.
came outta Tulsa one day and saw a truck rear-ended a sedan, the front bumper of the truck sitting about where the sedan's windshield wipers were.
3 fatalities, attributed to sun glare.
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Wasn't that flight tghgat crashged in San Francisco attributed to sun glare? The one where a survivor was fun over and killed by an ambulance?
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Good news - I cocked up putting that lexen film on a couple of windows. It peels right off with no problem! Yay! Now I can redo it - properly.
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Good news - I cocked up putting that lexen film on a couple of windows. It peels right off with no problem! Yay! Now I can redo it - properly.
did you get the new tint delivered?
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Guys, apologies to resurrect somewhat of an older thread, but as i understand it, lower percentage numbers for the tint = darker tones? is that correct?

So, will a 5% be "almost blackout" vs a 35% or higher being almost transparent?
What about heat shielding? would any tint do?

i was looking at this > Robot Check but since i want a very dark tint all around the bus (minus windshield, of course...), i should go with a 20% or lower.
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Guys, apologies to resurrect somewhat of an older thread, but as i understand it, lower percentage numbers for the tint = darker tones? is that correct?

So, will a 5% be "almost blackout" vs a 35% or higher being almost transparent?
What about heat shielding? would any tint do?

i was looking at this > Robot Check but since i want a very dark tint all around the bus (minus windshield, of course...), i should go with a 20% or lower.
Correct?
You are correct in your assumption. The lower the number the less light is able to pass the film... Just be sure to check into your state/county/city's laws about window tint. Its an easy ticket for them to write you so make sure you CYA.
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