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Old 06-15-2009, 06:30 PM   #1
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I don't see why using those windows wouldn't work. Unless there's some funky vibration problem that would eventually cause them to leak, they look really nice. Wonder how easy it would be to make up that 3.25" width, though. Sounds like a lot, but then again, after adding all the extra insulation and such, it may not be difficult at all.

Thanks for the idea! I may have to use it on BOB when I get him home.
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Just make sure that they are tempered glass. I would think that the IG banding would be the same in an RV window as it is residential, if it wasnt you may have an issue with the seals breaking due to movement which would ruin the glass unit.
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I'd never use feebay for anything, and I'd rather buy somewhere I can return in the event of a problem, not to mention I like to hold what I'm buying and take it with me when it's paid for (lol...can ya tell I don't like feebay?)
You might want to start liking e-bay. yes you have to wait a while to get your products, cant just carry them out of the store. But when it comes to RV parts, you will safe a ton of money buying on e-bay. Unless you have access to some great RV chunk yards that sell reasonable.
I doubt that those windows are tempered safety glass and hence would not use it in an RV.
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You'll likely need tempered safety glass to meet any kind of DOT regulations for a vehicle.

As for ebay, that is the best resource out there for convsion parts, about HALF my bus came from ebay, particularly Tri-State Surplus... you will not find RV windows at a lower cost ANYWHERE, and she is a very good seller and fast shipper. I have bought from them 15-16 times without any problems...
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Sorry Smitty, but I gotta agree with Van.
I hate PayPal with a passion, and will never use them again for anything, but I contact the seller direct to purchase and have had pretty good luck.

In other words, I use the service but don't line e-bays pockets (Yes, I'm cheating the system! POWER TO THE PEOPLE BABY!!!)
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Sorry Smitty, but I gotta agree with Van.
I hate PayPal with a passion, and will never use them again for anything, but I contact the seller direct to purchase and have had pretty good luck.

In other words, I use the service but don't line e-bays pockets (Yes, I'm cheating the system! POWER TO THE PEOPLE BABY!!!)
And i'm sure Smitty fully agrees with you too.

For me its the other way around, I will not purchase or sell to anybody on e-bay unless they deal with PayPal. I have been screwed once and only got my money back because of Pay-Pal.
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Thats why when I have gotten stuff off of ebay, I watch the page till the time is about to run out, then I bid in the last minute or two. I have found that if one bids while there is still hours on the clock, some ass will bid way more than the item is worth. Easier to just 'snipe' the item. Dont forget, your buying from average people, not a bigname store. Read the descriptions, look at the pictures. If something doesnt look right, move on. I have seen people claim that the item was brand new, but their pictures show scratches and fading on the item. Dont buy from them. Dont forget that you can also ask questions of the seller. Once again, If something doesnt look right, walk away. You do the same thing when looking at busses.

I've also bought from ebay a handful of times with no problems. I did get a videogame system that looks great but didnt work once, but I got another of the same system a day later that looked like it was beaten but worked like new. Swapped out the shells and have one system that looks good and works great.
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The reason I said tempered glass is for your own safety, having regular plate glass can be very dangerous especially in a moving vehicle, if someone were to slip and fall into it or was sitting on a bench with this above their head and it broke, it could potentially kill them. A friend of mine went through plate glass in a store front and now has about an 8" gash on his head that now looks like part of the female anatomy, the other kid almost died after a piece went into his neck. The difference with "safety glass" aka laminated glass is that the laminated has 2 very thin sheets of glass that sandwich a piece of plastic film, same as a windshield, tempered is just what it is. They both are strong on the face the difference being that when tempered breaks it pops into tons of little tiny pieces so it wil not do any major damage to you. Laminated is safer than regular plate (annealed) but if you managed to fall into laminated hard enough you could potentially go through it and be stuck as the large glass shards would still be held together and the plastic would keep this glass tight around whatever body part went through. You have to use lami on a windshield because if a rock hits it it will break but remain intact, if tempered was hit hard enough it would shatter and you would have no more windshield, otherwise it really isnt that safe. Heavy equipment typically has tempered all the way around the cabs.

As far as ebay, 95% of my parts came from it without a single problem, it is hard to find many of them elsewhere. I was given a good tip along time ago about paypal, make sure that you use a credit card, never your bank account. It is alot easier to dispute your CC than it is paypal.
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Here in VA, operating a motor vehicle built after 1935 with any window or door glass that isn't safety glass is a class 4 misdemeanor.

Also, if the vehicle GVWR is 26,001 or higher, or the GCWR is 26,001 or higher and the towed part exceeds 10,000 pounds, they can add an additional fine of up to $500. I suspect other states have similar laws.

Frankly, I think it'd be cheaper to stick with safety glass, even if it meant replacing the glass in that window you like with safety glass.

You might ask if they have a version with safety glass, and save yourself some potential hassles.

hope this helps,
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You would think that you could order it with tempered. Most building codes require this if the window is in a wet area i.e. bathroom or if the window is less than 36" from the floor. I dont know how well the annealed glass would hold up over time with rocks and other road debris getting kicked up either. If you look enough Id bet you could get the thinner RV windows for close to the same price. The money spent on supplies for doing trim to compensate for the extra thickness may also quickly eat up any money saved. All the little odds and ends add up soooo fast, that is what is killing me the closer I get to completion.
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