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Old 07-22-2012, 10:04 AM   #1
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WOW! NASA Technologie meets School Bus Roofs - Bus Kote

Hy-Tech Roof Coating:
This just came in and I'm REALLY excited to do this. I've got some prep to do this week to rough up the roof and get some mildew spots off and clean.
This is a product NASA had a hand in developing. From what I understand they found a way to take a near microscopic bead of Ceramic and put a vacuum on it which creates a hollow sphere in the Ceramic which is void of matter thus robbing the already insulation valued ceramic further more of the any ability to transfer heat or cold. One customer writes they applied it to a Bare Pipe that had a 480degree or so product in it with a bare surface temp of 400-440. After applying a 5mil coating to the Bare Pipe the Surface temp dropped to 200-240degrees... SOLD~!!!!! Adding this ceramic to paint was initially thought up SPECIFICALLY FOR SCHOOL BUSES. The Vacuumed beads rise to the surface of wet paint during the evaporation period while the non vacuumed beads settle to the bottom creating a double or even triple barrier if you consider the "non-matter sphere" another level of insulation. So I'm excited to apply this. You can cook steak and eggs on my roof down here in Texas. Can't wait to see the results. I'll let you know.

Also going to paint the exhaust surface of my Water Heater Duct work to reduce radiant heat.

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I've purchased quite a bit of this to use on my new home. It seemed to be the perfect addition to other measures we have implemented in the quest for energy saving technology. In many different applications, we noticed no beneficial results whatsoever. We then tried specific tests such as the garage door, water pipes, and our shed among others. No difference at all. I gave the rest that I had to my neighbor who is a professor at UNC. He worked with it at their research facilities and was not able to create any scenario that produced positive results. He had some of his students take the concept on as a research project and they came up with some interesting information. They discovered another company that has actually been highlighted by NASA as a technology partner.

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After some coaxing, and with trepidation, I decided to purchase their (Hy-Tech) additive along with some special paint they produce. The students installed sensing equipment in several places around my house and took measurements for two weeks. We then applied this ceramic / aluminum "barrier coat" paint in my attic. After another two weeks of measuring they noted that the attic temperature had been reduced by 21.8 degrees. The paint additive reduced interior temperatures by an average of 12.3 degrees also. The resulting savings have been an average of 72.14 off my utility bills. I am now convinced (as are the students) that there are indeed products that perform well as additives to paint. The ******** product did not perform well for us, but it did lead us to research and locate this NASA spinoff product that has done wonders. Just a little less money for Duke Power every month, and more for us!
Dennis B.

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We have just finished using your product in the re-painting of our living room. We have a townhouse with the living room ceiling 18' high with a centre loft open at both ends. The largest living room wall is 'party' to the adjoining townhouse. We used the 150 on the 'party' (24wx18h) and the end wall facing the patio and the lake. We were seeking both the sound reduction and 'defect' hiding on such a large flat area which is the usual stud and 5/8 sheetrock. We used the 150 just as it came (no tint) and it was rolled on with a 1" roller, two coats (by a professional painter). The application process took a bit more care and effort to get the right "mild textured" look we wanted. The results were far beyond our expectations. The whole wall now looks like "one piece" with no faults or seam lines. In short, it is beautiful. The rest of the room was done with Behr Ultra Supreme ($22/gal) - clearly we were not trying to go the cheap route. We did a 'sound test' with the adjoining neighbors in that (before 150paint) they slowly turned up the volume on their stereo until we could just hear it and they noted the volume setting.We repeated the test after painting and 2 days curing and, while this test is hardly scientific ,the neighbor's volume settings were about 25% lower for the higher frequencies and about 20% for the bass. We got all of what we expected, and more. The look is beautiful and the sound reduction is essentially free. Good stuff.

The Real Deal!!!
Tony,
When I first learned about Hy-Tech, and your products via your web site http://www.hytechsales.com/insulating_p ... tives.html, I was intrigued. I live in a small rural town in Northern Arizona, and experience colder winter temperatures than I am comfortable with. Since moving here I've applied every conventional method I knew to make my home more comfortable (warmer), and reduce its heating bills. Although the logic of the technology of your products made sense, in today's world there is always the thought in the back of every prospective customers mind, "Are these people for real?"

The only way I could know for sure if you were for real, short of knowing someone who had used your products, was to try your product. I'm glad I did. As a result I am now enjoying a more comfortable (warmer) environment, and my heating costs have been significantly reduced as reflected by the furnace usage below. The furnace usage data below are a result of using a digital thermostat that has a usage feature which displays how long the furnace operated during the current and previous day, and daily entering and compiling the usage on a computer.

During the first 14 days of January 2005, prior to repainting the interior with your Insulated Paint Additive, the furnace was operating an average of 4:24 a day to keep the temperature at 69 degrees, or a total of 61:37.
During the last 14 days of January 2005, after the painting was completed, the furnace was operating an average of 2:59 a day, or a total of 41:52.

The math comparing the furnace usage tells us that the furnace operated 32% less during the 14 days subsequent to repainting with your Insulated Additive than before it was repainted.
It is conceivable that the reduced furnace usage was due to a upward change in the exterior temperature. In fact the exterior temperature did change. It was consistently colder (below or near freezing) during the last week of January. The exterior temperature decreased, and the operating time of the furnace decreased to maintain a 69 degree temperature. The only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that the Insulated Paint Additive used to repaint the interior served to retain more of the heat the furnace generated than before.
Considering the fact that the major cost involved with heating any structure is not so much initially heating the structure, but replacing the heat lost because of heat transferred through ceilings and walls your products address the shortcomings of construction material. Hy-Tech, and its products are the Real Deal.

In addition to the obvious energy savings above, and the reduced wear and tear on the furnace because of operating it less the additional benefit of your additive reducing the exterior noise (traffic, and barking dogs) from coming into my home has been greatly appreciated, and enjoyed.
My reason for trying your product was heating less expensively in a cold climate. I'm sure the properties of your products would work as effectively in hot climates to effect air-conditioning.

I would without a doubt recommend Hy-Tech's products to anyone who is looking for a means of making their home, or business, more comfortable and less expensive to heat or cool.
Sincerely,
Vincent (Jim) Garofolo 35% Savings!
I have a small, one bed room, top floor apartment in Southfield, Michigan. Last summer I got a $300 power bill and about went into cardiac arrest. For a 1000 square foot apartment, this is on the high side of outrageous. I stuck my head up in the up in the attic and found out the insulation up there was the blown stuff. A thermometer placed up there reached 155 F, about 60 F above the outside air temperature.
Using your products, I painted the ceiling and interior side of the outside walls in my living room with your #85 "Barrier Coat" aluminum/ceramic paint. On top of that, I painted with white paint mixed with your ceramic additive. I did not paint the back room ... too much stuff back there to shove around.
As the gas bills show, ( note: Mr Courney sent copies of his gas bills to us ),
I used 2/3 the amount of gas last winter ( 2002 ) than I did the year before. I must state is was a whole lot colder during the winter of 2002 than 2001. We even tied a record low temperature, set in 1878, for one day during the first week of December.
In short, Hy-Tech ceramic additive works. Its been about nine months since I painted my place and have just about recovered my investment. This includes the $150 I spent on an 8 foot ladder. I only painted the living room, I can't wait to see my savings when I paint the bedroom too.
As an added bonus, I have noticed I do not hear the neighbors as much since I have used your products. Wasn't expecting this, but sound has as much trouble traveling through a vacuum as does heat energy.
Thanks Hy-Tech
Dane Courney Super Savings!!!
We recently completed a 90,000 square foot building in Houma, La, an old Wal-Mart that has been converted into a climate controlled mini-storage. The flat tar and gravel roof was coated with PermaKote Plus insulating roof coating and the walls were also painted inside and out with insulating ceramic paint. Not only did these coatings enhance the appearance of the building but they also created a significant savings in the utilities for the building.
Originally it took 16 Air Conditioning units to cool the building...
it now takes ONLY 3 !
As you can see not only is there a significant savings in energy costs but also the life expectancy of the A/C units will increase approximately 4 times.
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I bought your # 12 box additive last year and it had been sitting in my shed. (I'm old, and worn out.) But decided that we had to do something because of the cost of fuel. So my husband and I put our boots on ... he mixed and I painted our mobile home roof ... 16X80. We put 2 coats on in two days.
It is everything you say it is and more. We are so impressed that we are going to finish the entire house in it and, our sheds. We have one outdoor kitty that resides in one of the sheds and this will help keep him cool this summer.
We live in the southern part of Arkansas and it is hot and humid and have already weathered two pretty nasty storms since the application. I could hardly believe how quiet the roof was. This paint has stabilized the inside temperature so much that I want to kiss the inventor!
It has only been two weeks ... but our kilowatt usage has gone from 80 watts per day to 51.
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Our test application is impressive so far.
I have approximately 40 feet of 3 inch pipe (aprox. 40 square feet). I have used ˝ gallon in 3 coats (5 ml?).
Ambient temperature is 40 degrees with a slight breeze.
Internal temperature is 486 degrees.
Bare pipe skin temp is 420-440 degrees.
Coated skin temp is 200-220 degrees!!

Pardon the pun but that is cool.
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You have a winner! Last year my company started to use Hy-Tech ceramics and Bus-kote on refrigerated trailers. We have been running tests on your product for close to a year to see if what you claim is true. Well, not only have your products done what you say, they have gone well beyond my and my customers expectations! A small example for anyone thinking of applying Hy-Tech products. This spring we applied Buskote to a 53.5 ft refer trailer for a client. That same afternoon we tested it against a new trailer setting dead next to the one with the Hy-Tech coating. He and I did not believe the difference between the trailers (14 degrees!) and decided to run further tests. The results are the treated unit stayed on average 13.3 degrees cooler @ 83 degrees ambient temperature, his refer units ran 16.8% less time per cycle and 19.2% less cycles when loaded and on the road. Wow, in fuel costs alone that application was paid for in no time. The reduction in "lost load" claims and less stress on equipment cannot even be measured. I am impressed. Since these test we have tried three other brands of "ceramic insulators" to compare and they did not even come close you your product. We will be using HY-TECH exclusively from now on. Thanks for the great product!
Mark Allen
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George Fischer
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Last June I needed to paint my living room. A few months before I had heard from somebody who lived in a large dome tent in the mountains of Colorado at about 9,000 ft. He lived there both winter and summer. I asked what he did about insulation and he started telling me about his use of paint with ceramic bead additives, hollow spheres with vacuums inside of them. I have a M.S. degree in Physics, so I immediately understood the possibilities of what he was telling me. I wanted to add these beads to the interior paint as my house is not that well insulated and looked up ceramic bead paints on the internet. I ran across the web site for Hy-Tech Thermal Solutions and after talking to them in great detail, I decided to order their insulating ceramic paint additive. I got some paint from the local hardware store and mixed in the beads.
After painting the living room I was really pleased with the results. The echoes in the room went away and the room seemed to regulate temperatures better than an adjacent room with the same exterior exposure qualities.
After this experience I painted the fiberglass pop-top of my van with Insulating Roof paint from Hy-Tech. After the paint dried, the finish looked even better than the original top. In the hot Utah sun the van was is cooler inside when parked outside in the direct sun.
I am not often impressed with new products these days... as the hype does not seem to follow up with the experience. I must say that Hytech's products have thoroughly impressed me so far.
Sincerely,
George Fischer
Salem, Utah We Beat the Texas Heat!
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AWESOME! That's all I can say about Hy-Tech products. I am building a new wood frame building here in Houston and decided to use Hy-Tech products to try and reduce heat intrusion through the roof and sidewall's. We setup temperature monitors inside the building so that we could compare the before and after temp's. Our first application was the spraying of the underside of the roof decking with #85 Barrier Coat, the interior temperature dropped a whopping 18° F. Several days later we sprayed the exterior with Insul-Flex insulating elastomeric and the interior temperature dropped 25°F !!!
The building is now ready for insulation on interior walls and drywall and sitting here wide open in the hot Texas sun the interior and exterior temperatures are The Same meaning there is NO HEAT GAIN from the roof or wall materials.
Hy-Tech products have proven to me they Really Work! I own a 47 year old ranch, with a full heated basement, of which one long side is exposed to grade. It has corrugated aluminum foil insulation, which is to say, almost nothing. My block foundation has no insulation. I heat with a coal stove in the basement.
Last fall (2003) and this winter, I put two coats of #85 barrier coat, plus two coats of ceramic-loaded finish paint, on all interior surfaces of my outside walls (basement and upper level). The coal stove now adds 5 degrees more heat to the house than it did previously. In addition, traffic noise is noticably less.
I am definitely going to cover the outside walls with Hy-Tech products next summer.
James Feltus
Seneca Falls, NY
Hot Boiler Pipes Temp Reduced 45%!
This is our second order. I wanted to see how effective Hy-Tech insulating ceramics were so I put it on my boiler pipes and generated the heat to it's full capacity. The temperature on the outside of the pipes was reduced by 45% with four coats of paint. Needless to say, I am going to use Hy-Tech insulating additive on my exterior walls and interior ceilings, the reduction rate has reduced the boiler run time from a 2 hour length of time , down to 20 minutes. I highly recommend your product.
Mary Jeffrey
Owings Mills, MD

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Old 07-22-2012, 10:20 AM   #2
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lotsa people have been using it now, and its pretty cheap for a bus roof when you add it to the roof coating.
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lotsa people have been using it now, and its pretty cheap for a bus roof when you add it to the roof coating.
I can't wait... I know it's hard on my Coleman Mach 15 right now. My roof is BLAZING HOT! I've got to do something or my A/C is going to give up the ghost~! I'm really excited to see how my day time temps drop. Without window treatment - cooling down isn't even an option. I'm going to do a laser Temp on it before and after (I hope). Anyway... I've got a lot to gain if I can cool down my roof!
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Do I think this is a good product yes. I got in to a debate with some jackwagon who runs the busnuts group (cant remember his name but said he was the creator) on how and what this product will and wont do.

At that time I recently went through a system design class in HVAC. So we were in debate that this is more effective than ANY other type of insulation and that this product is the ONLY thing someone needs to keep a bus cool or warm. I told him he was full of crap and that a manual J calculation will support that.

I put my faith in materail that will have r values. Do I think the combo of insulation and this product will work well together.... You bet.

USMC.... I would look in to insualting. I think dollar for dollar its the best place to put your cash. To me its like buy womens lingerie for your wife. Its the gift that keeps giving.
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I used BusKote. It's basically white elastometric paint that they added ceramic beads to. It is not some miracle product, the basic benefit is that it's white paint. The price isn't too bad, but the shipping is. Some just buy white eslastometric roof paint locally, and if you want, you can buy and add the ceramic beads. What I found to be really important with BusKote is that it be topcoated with a (their) clearcoat, otherwise your white roof will soon not be white.
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Can you walk on it or will it crush the beads?
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No problem walking on them. I'd call the insulating stuff glass microspheres. The idea is, I guess, that heat doesn't travel well through the spheres. They're probably strong, but give the roof a rough surface, hence the need for the clear coat.
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I know when I painted the roof of my Trooper white(factory marron-ish) the temp diff. was amazing

I don't have heat radiating down on my head like before,and you can actually touch the roof in full sun,the parts(front/back 6in) that are not white,will cook your skin!

So just a switch to white makes a big deal.
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Yea for the price I'm right there with other brands. The Spheres are supposed to withstand 1600psi before failure.

There are two spheres in this. Regular solid and the ones that have had a Vacuum put on them creating an "air bubble" so to speak only the bubble has no matter therefore not able to transfer heat or cold. THAT's just the bubble... the rest of the bead can!

I know ceramics on Motorcycle pipes greatly reduces heat. The same theory I think is reached for here.

We'll see... I only have two things to go on here - others experience and the tech info from their website. Hope it works out well.
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Just ordered the Clear Coat sealer... OUCH! $21 Shipping... $61 total.

Local dealer wanted $83... Oh well... gotta do it right!
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We used the hytech on our roof and I was impressed. Halfway through the painting I checked the difference. The temp reduction was amazing IMHO.
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We used the hytech on our roof and I was impressed. Halfway through the painting I checked the difference. The temp reduction was amazing IMHO.

Great to hear... Thank you
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Hi! How is your ceramic paint today? Still happy of it?
I think I will buy it, just need to be sure.

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That's exactly the reason I want to use this on the roof of mine once I get it. Just have to find an outlet for it around here.
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This sounds amazing!
Please can I get some more details
Where and what do you order?
How much do you mix with what paint?

If you were to apply this to the floor, walls and ceiling inside, would this act like the spray foam?

Very interesting!!
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It's intended for use on the outside of the roof, and it also needs a clear coat applied after it dries.

I just ordered 3 gallons of each because I'll need that much to cover the roof of a 40 footer... 320 square feet if it was flat, more because it's curved, plus I'm taking the white all the way down to the bottom of the windows. 1 gallon covers between 120 and 150 square feet.
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I used it when I repainted my roof before I built my walkway and solar panel frames - I bought the ceramic pixie dust and mixed it into Rustoleum gloss white enamel. Exactly how much difference it made is not easily quantifiable, but for a few dollars more on my roof repainting project I thought that any benefit, however slight, would be worthwhile. One thing I did notice is that Rustoleum with pixie dust dries to a rough surface texture, so after two coats of it I then applied two further coats of plain Rustoleum to smooth the surface somewhat. After six coats in total (Mar-Hyde etching pre-treatment primer, Rustoleum primer, then four coats total of enamel, all rolled on with a short-nap 4" roller), who knows how much difference it makes? It won't make things worse, and if it helps even slightly then that's OK. However, carpeting almost my entire roof in solar panels and the walkway means that little direct sunlight even touches the roof at all, and that helps more than anything else to reduce the interior ceiling temperature.

So, does it work? Maybe. How well - who knows. Is it worth doing? Yes, why not, but don't expect miracles. A smooth shiny gloss white paint is the single best way to reduce heatsoak, with or without the pixie dust.

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The actual reduction in heat transfer that I have witnessed was quite impressive. As a result I am using the additive beads in quite a few areas. I have applied it to the inner sides of all my wall panels and will also be using it on my floor and firewall.
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Here's an experiment I conducted with the insulating beads from Hytech:
Insulating paint beads: Feedback from REAL people please



TLDR: Bus Kote does next to nothing for heat transfer, but it does reflect sunlight which will reduce interior temperatures when in direct sun.
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What may be more telling would be to do a comparison between paint with and without the ceramic magic powder, but to use a color of paint that is known to absorb heat (i.e. has a low solar reflectivity) such as matte black. If the powder then provides any benefit, it will be easier to separate the effects of reflectivity from conductance.

Anyone here want to do some test samples this way?

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