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Old 06-20-2015, 12:27 PM   #21
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I went specifically for a Navistar power plant (T444E in my case) because of the extra costs CAT tacks on, because their parts are proprietary. Cummins parts you can get anywhere, and Navistar parts depend a lot on the plant, but can also be had just about anywhere.

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Old 06-20-2015, 12:45 PM   #22
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Ok, I found a 3208 vs 8.3 discussion here on this site...I will go and read it.

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f33/8-...26-a-7716.html

There is no discussion. Stick with the 8.3 Cummins. The only person that will argue for a 3208 over the 8.3 is someone that has one in their bus. Given the choice between the 2, I'm sure even they would choose the 8.3.
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:00 PM   #23
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As has been mentioned already, when new, a front engine dog nose bus with a 5.9 cummins and a AT545 trans cost over $40,000 less than the HDT rear engine flat nose bus with a Cummins 8.3 and MD3060.

So $2000 for a old TC 2000 with the basic engine and trans, would make the big bus with the best of everything cost $6000 and up.

I would have no issue paying up to $10,000 for a nearly perfect bus with the best of everything.



Are you made of money?

If not you best skip the Cat engines and the Detroit's.

Cost wise the Cummins and the DT engines rule the fleet.

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Old 06-20-2015, 10:36 PM   #24
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There is no discussion. Stick with the 8.3 Cummins. The only person that will argue for a 3208 over the 8.3 is someone that has one in their bus. Given the choice between the 2, I'm sure even they would choose the 8.3.
The 3208 is a fine engine.
But I will trade you my 3208 for your 8.3.
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