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Old 03-18-2012, 03:26 AM   #11
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

first student busses in oregon are for sale.. like the 96 pusher that they replaced for my brother cause it was just 15 yrs old. It had a detroit, and was a genesis i believe, from coos bay school dist. They sent it back up here for sale.
The state of oregon property division sale, bus that i looked like had a regular title that came with it.
I frequently buy state of oregon, and salvage cars both at the insurance auctions, and occasionally from the state. a salvage title can be transferred to a branded one which will be a good one, you dont even have to fix the vehicle, but some have to be inspected for the vin number... thats all.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:00 PM   #12
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

Im not saying ALL are this case- but the ones that have recently sold in my area which were State owned- were "not to be re-registered" Salvage only titles- Thanks you for clarifying this for me- Im no expert- a friend bought a couple in that case as engine donors. A Coos Bay bus isnt likely to be rust free. I recently looked at a 99 freightliner chassis bus from the Oregon coast that had some major rust issues.

Again- thanks to all for the input.

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Old 03-18-2012, 08:22 PM   #13
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

with those kind of hours and 200k miles it looks to be an avg of 19 mph.

also with 10k hours on it, its about 335,000 equivelment
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:24 AM   #14
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

by that reccomendation, I guess I will part it out

Thanks- I own a worn out piece of junk.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:38 AM   #15
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

doing a little reverse math on the statement of equivalent mileage-

Hours X 250MPH = equavalent use. What is the assumed percentage of time that a school bus idles while warming up/ waiting- transferring- etc.

Sure- that is a rock solid conversion formula

that math is pretty much an insult to this bus and a sabotage to the ad. Or just a testament to credibility.

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Old 03-19-2012, 01:40 AM   #16
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

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What's that spoiler/aerofoil/wing/deflector thingy above the rear window? Is it to keep the window clean? I saw another picture a while ago of a loaded BB AARE that also had one, so I guess they were a factory option?

John
correct- it is to keep the back windows clean. They are often seen on older suburbans and such also. Not sure if it was a facory option, but this looks to at least have been dealer installed- not a hack job.
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:42 AM   #17
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

If, as suggested by playing with math(dangerous for me to do), you bus goes 250 MPH then you are gonna need a spoiler to hold that rocket to the road.

seriously though I am curious about the methodology used te calculate"equalavent mileage" care to expand?
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:19 AM   #18
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

It gets a little hairy at about 175- but smooths out again at around 205. That spoiler really makes it stick to the road.

This is getting a long way from the original classified ad- but I too would like some clarification on equivalent mileage calcs.

Admittedly- I got a bit defensive. I felt that the 2.5 million miles should have at least been a PM- but posted within the classified ad- Sabbotage.

The rig is listed elsewhere- It is being sold in an effort to build the 98 RE.
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:46 PM   #19
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i just found two sites that offer the 8.3 reman engines one for 4500 the other for 4900- one was blueprinted both had all new internals.

If you can get 4500 for a reman with 90K you are better at sales then most.

that stated I am not sure what value you can expect for your bus.
I just did some looking muself- The cheapest used takeout +core that I could find was 3500+500 core- only 1 of those. Most take-outs were actually 4500+1500 core charge. some of them were even 6000.00- for a take-out

you may have found a chinese reman that could be bought for 4500. What was the core charge? my price is still ballpark.

Yes it is a cummins reman with 90 K on it- but it is an appropriately priced great running engine- that happens to be in a giant yellow crate.

I would dicker on the price- this bus has no rust- it would be a shame to take 3500 for the engine and scrap the bus.

is anyone interested enough to save me the time of scrapping it?
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:02 PM   #20
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Re: 1994 RUST FREE blue bird All American RE

I maybe speaking out of turn but it is my understanding that the miles/hours equivalent is for calculating service intervals. The point of having an hour meter on commercial or industrial equipment is that they are both needed for calculating preventative maintenance intervals. Especially on a school bus that sees mixed duty they are not equivalent.
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