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09-08-2015, 07:32 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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If had a way to pay for it and pick it up, I'd bid on them at the current price.
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09-08-2015, 07:53 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Eastern Kentucky
Posts: 76
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I'm curious as to why you don't think the Detroit Diesels in them will work for full-timing.
I've not read every thread on this site, but what I have read tells me that they have excellent engines, and the parts are cheap and easy to find. When properly maintained, they can easily run 500k to 1m miles.
I'll fall out of my chair if these two busses sell for less than 10K, but if I had that kind of money, I'd be all over them.
Here's a link to threads posted by mokibrabrant: http://www.skoolie.net/forums/search...earchid=142619
He really knows a lot about Crowns, and if you scan his posts, you'll soon find plenty of info.
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09-08-2015, 08:07 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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DD aren't cheap. If that engine dies on ya, it can cost 10-20 large to rebuild. But when they're good, they're GOOD. I've heard they have a thirst for oil and fuel.
I'd imagine these will sell for 4500-5500. But yeah 10k is probably more like it.
Thing is, I'm not sure they sell so high if Mokibrahbrant isn't bidding.
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09-08-2015, 08:20 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Eastern Kentucky
Posts: 76
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
DD aren't cheap. If that engine dies on ya, it can cost 10-20 large to rebuild. But when they're good, they're GOOD. I've heard they have a thirst for oil and fuel.
I'd imagine these will sell for 4500-5500. But yeah 10k is probably more like it.
Thing is, I'm not sure they sell so high if Mokibrahbrant isn't bidding.
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LOL, true. He does tend to drive the price up.
I'm sure I read a thread very recently about Crown engines that were cheap to work on. Do they put Cummins 8.3 in any of them?
Meh, sorry. When I read late at night, it all runs together
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09-08-2015, 08:41 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Far as I know DD aren't ever cheap. I don't know about the 8.3's but they did put 855's in Crowns!
THAT would be my ULTIMATE bus!
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09-08-2015, 09:00 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 308
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The crown body is made for moving on the highway not for modding out into an RV. If it were to be a weekender absolutely. Just the way the body is constructed makes it very difficult to deal with, how do you add tanks to it. That panel in the middle of the floor is a night mare to design space around. DD engines are ridiculously expensive to repair and hard to find a mechanic who knows their way around one. If that engine gives up the ghost you will be looking at least a $10-13k bill and be homeless for a month.
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09-08-2015, 10:54 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Yes, the way a crown is made = more $$ to convert.
And way more hassle.
Then comes trying to find parts that are not made anymore ect.
Not worth it in my opinion. Better off with a clean rear engine BlueBird, with a Cummins 8.3 and a MD3060.
Nat
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09-08-2015, 11:48 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Costly and cumbersome to convert...but they sure are purdy.
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09-08-2015, 01:19 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Denver
Posts: 489
Year: 1982
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International S1800
Engine: DT466 Trans: MT643
Rated Cap: 65
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I know a guy with some clean bluebird 8.3s with MD3060s ;)
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09-08-2015, 01:52 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Dublin California USA
Posts: 46
Coachwork: Looking for something
Chassis: Big Enough to fit my dog
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Wanted to do a crown but they wind up being very expensive. The more I look at them the more I think I rather go with a 40' with boxes underneath. However if you are building a weekend machine or thinking more of a tent on wheels the crowns are awesome. Its when you start wanting a bathroom and or shower that things start getting very complicated.
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09-08-2015, 03:41 PM
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#12
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 29
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e
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Oh man, like many others, I Love Those CROWNS! but it would not be a rational choice for me to build out. the spacing issues underneath are for sure a problem and if its a DD 6 or 8v71 they are users and leakers. Definitely a major cost to repair if needed and that's if you can find an old mechanic that actually knows how to make one hum. So I guess I'm just agreeing with the other guys.
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09-10-2015, 09:37 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
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I didn't see anything about the title in the description and it will not allow me to ask a question about the title on eBay.
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09-10-2015, 11:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Nothing cheap about owning a 2 stroke. Excellent engines and they have quite a following. A rebuild would be upwards of $20k. Guys that know them and can fix them are getting far and few between.
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09-11-2015, 12:03 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 308
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Basically they are the Ferrari or Alpha Romeo of busses, neither of which would make economical motor homes.
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09-11-2015, 12:06 AM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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If I had the money, I'd gladly pay the current going price.
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09-11-2015, 12:27 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainInsaneo
Basically they are the Ferrari or Alpha Romeo of busses, neither of which would make economical motor homes.
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Your bang on.
I could not have said it better myself.
Most of us are here for efficient living / camping structures.
Only a few are trying to carry a level of prestige, trying to show off their money, and have something they think most of us want.
Only way I would own a Crown is if it was given to me. Then I would sell it to some sucker that thinks he wants it.
Nothing more than resale value.
Nat
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09-11-2015, 12:36 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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At the current bid, there'd be a lot left to resell.
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09-11-2015, 02:27 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 308
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If one was given to me I would waste gobs of time and money making it AWESOME but on my own dime, nope nope nope.
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09-11-2015, 02:45 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Eastern Kentucky
Posts: 76
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Only a few minutes left, and it looks like they're going to sell under 2K each.
Y'all talked me out of it with the posts about how hard it is to fit tanks underneath though
Eta: nvm. One of them just jumped to nearly 5K
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