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Old 12-08-2019, 05:35 PM   #1
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2003 dt466e

Looks like a solid setup, odo is a little high, nail in the tire, but says it runs. contacted the seller and hes selling for 3500 in person, 2750 buy it now on ebay... Thinking of pulling the trigger. have a buddy whos close to it and is going to check it out. Seller seems like a real dick over the phone, but for the price seems legit.



Let me know what you guys think.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Intern...sAAOSwvxBd6R-i

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Old 12-08-2019, 06:37 PM   #2
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I'm nowhere close enough to look at it for you, but I have a hard time believing a bus from Maryland has "little to no rust". Just for comparison, I bought a 2003 dog nose with the same engine and 100,000 less miles for $3000.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:40 PM   #3
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Doesn't sound like a smart seller. If he sold it for the BIN price he would have had a decent bill to ebay come out of that. The BIN goes away as soon as a bid comes in, so that is gone now. No reserve, so if it ends now , he loses even more.

As for the bus, if not for the damage it might be worth $3500. Needs repair with door glass. Mileage a tad high. It from a rust state.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:06 PM   #4
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Nice drive train but the miles would give me pause.

I have seen DT-466 equipped buses running strong with well over 300k miles. I am simply more comfortable buying a bus with lower miles.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:15 PM   #5
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So... I had an interesting conversation with this guy via text. i guess he just sells a ton of busses out of the east coast.. things already gone. hes got quite the attitude over text... id be interested in digging up any busses bought out of marlboro maryland and how they turned out or if anyone knows this guy. claims hes sold 73 this year..
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:23 AM   #6
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I'd wanna know if it has ever had the timing cover resealed/replaced.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:13 PM   #7
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New option

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...ntana&CTRY=usa


Heres the other one im looking at, fully mechanical dt, price per miles is a little high, but the guy is dead set on its quality. Just had the transmission replaced, and is motivated to get it gone for the owner.



Let me know your thoughts on this one. May make a deposit on it tonight.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:18 PM   #8
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Offer $2500 if it doesn't have an AT 545.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:25 PM   #9
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Offer $2500 if it doesn't have an AT 545.
So what about the extra 700? I’m alright with full price considering I’ve missed out on a lot of busses like this and it’s the drive train I’m looking for and not to mention he’s holding it for me for a month.

Also, what’s that lever next to the seat? Brake? I’m guessing it’s got hydraulic brakes and not air?
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:31 PM   #10
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Heres the other one im looking at, fully mechanical dt, price per miles is a little high, but the guy is dead set on its quality. Just had the transmission replaced, and is motivated to get it gone for the owner.



Let me know your thoughts on this one. May make a deposit on it tonight.
I had one of those and it was great. They're really good buses.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:43 PM   #11
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its smashed in the rear upper cap...
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:13 PM   #12
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I had one of those and it was great. They're really good buses.
So east coast, I have some questions for you.
The guy claims there’s no oil leaks that he knows of, hydraulic brakes, and the body damage is there. It’s paired to a 545. Less then 10k on the new tranny. I’m Wondering what your thoughts are about the mileage, since it’s in the mid 200’s and just your all around thoughts on the motor, and it’s life expectancy. I’ve been in these busses, the short wheel base and length is perfect for what I’m looking to do, and I’ve done my research. I’d like to know some first hand experience though considering you probably have some input.

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Old 12-09-2019, 09:25 PM   #13
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So east coast, I have some questions for you.
The guy claims there’s no oil leaks that he knows of, hydraulic brakes, and the body damage is there. It’s paired to a 545. Less then 10k on the new tranny. I’m Wondering what your thoughts are about the mileage, since it’s in the mid 200’s and just your all around thoughts on the motor, and it’s life expectancy. I’ve been in these busses, the short wheel base and length is perfect for what I’m looking to do, and I’ve done my research. I’d like to know some first hand experience though considering you probably have some input.

Thanks!
The 545 is crappy. THe DT466E is great as long as it was cared for properly.
If its ever had the timing cover replaced that would be a huge selling point for me. They can go bad and its THE worst job you can do on one of those engines.
Not all of them fail.
Mine was all mechanical and had the 643 transmission.
It had 250k on it when I got it. I paid $2000.
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:44 PM   #14
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The 545 is crappy. THe DT466E is great as long as it was cared for properly.
If its ever had the timing cover replaced that would be a huge selling point for me. They can go bad and its THE worst job you can do on one of those engines.
Not all of them fail.
Mine was all mechanical and had the 643 transmission.
It had 250k on it when I got it. I paid $2000.
I’m pretty sure it’s the mechanical motor, but I’m not sure if the timing cover has been replaced. I’m confident I can baby the 545. I’ve done enough reading on it and plan to keep my load fairly light, especially pressing hills. I’ve also looked into the swap threads, but not so sure if I’ll go that route or not. Also, knowing the trans only has 10k on it makes me feel better about it blowing up immediately. I’m hoping to get some more paperwork on it.
I just don’t want something terrible to happen when I dump my money into it.
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:25 AM   #15
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2003 won't be mechanical it will be electronic.
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:37 AM   #16
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Shoot. I was talking about this one here.
https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...ntana&CTRY=usa
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:42 AM   #17
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Shoot. I was talking about this one here.
https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...ntana&CTRY=usa
Ah, ,,,,,,,my bad. I forgot.
Got some STRONG medical cannabis this week I guess.


Those mechanical engines are the BEST. If its been really well cared for its a great engine. I miss mine.
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:48 AM   #18
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Ah, ,,,,,,,my bad. I forgot.
Got some STRONG medical cannabis this week I guess.


Those mechanical engines are the BEST. If its been really well cared for its a great engine. I miss mine.
Hahaha. Medical or not. Understandable my friend. I’m just curious about the life expectancy. When I buy it it’ll be a 1600 mile trek home. That’s a good distance. But more will be revealed.
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Hahaha. Medical or not. Understandable my friend. I’m just curious about the life expectancy. When I buy it it’ll be a 1600 mile trek home. That’s a good distance. But more will be revealed.
That is a good amount of distance. The only way to know what condition its in is to get eyes on it. Mine had that kinda mileage but had a 643. the 545 does put a good bit more heat into the cooling system so IDK if that affects longevity but I'm sure it can.
I sold my bus to a guy who drove it 1200 miles home.
Not saying you'll have the same luck. Just saying how it went for me.

How are the tires?

Is that rust on the rear wheel arch? I hate rust.
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:53 AM   #20
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its smashed in the rear upper cap...
The door was deformed by it also (you can see the bend at the bottom). Lot of work involved in getting that mess straightened out - and probably every opening in the back (lights and windows) is leaking now, if they weren't already.

If you were going to turn the back of the bus into a flatbed like some people do, I guess this would be a good candidate.
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