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Old 06-18-2015, 03:30 PM   #11
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The bidding is already going up. Bet it will pass ten grand before its done
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:50 PM   #12
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I'd certainly hope not.

I do know that EVERY cool old bus I come across on the web is swept up by Moki.
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Old 06-19-2015, 04:53 PM   #13
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I seriously doubt that this Crown will go to 10K. And I know that it won't be "swept" up by me at those dollars. About a year ago there were 4 Modesto Crowns, all with auto transmission, that went at auction. What set them apart was that the engines were all recently re-manufactured, most with less than 50K on them.........These Modesto Crowns all went for over 10K and as high as 14K........and that without taxes and buyers premiums factored in.

The Crown at Auction............is rather interesting in that it has the 6L71NA......and sits at 210HP. I've never owned an NA before. Another very critical aspect of this Sale is that with buyer premium and a State Sales Tax the buyer will be looking to add nearly 20% to the whatever the bid amount will be.Also I do have photo's of this Crown that are not posted on the site. And though there doesn't appear to be significant rust issues, it is a Crown after all: There does appear to be some issues, slight creases and apparent repairs to the body..............All and all I don't know what to say. It's a Crown. They're mid-engined great riding and built machines............I've bid on it. I like it. But don't see it going at 10K. I'm thinking bid price for this will not exceed 6200 bucks. But remember: at that sales price you need to tack on another 20% That takes you close to 7500 bucks............. So you buy it at those dollars because its your primary Coach. But as configured with the current drive train........it may not make any sense at all as a re-sale. I did take possession of a Crown last month.............and quite frankly the currently listed Crown doesn't hold a candle to it............Do check out the link below for more photo's of the Crowns............if you want.

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Old 06-19-2015, 04:58 PM   #14
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How many do you have, Brant?
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:04 PM   #15
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I currently have 4 Crowns and one Flxible..................I'm cutting back.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:33 PM   #16
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So are you a collector or a reseller?
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:40 PM   #17
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So are you a collector or a reseller?
poster child for the......


but, ICBW?????


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Old 06-19-2015, 05:49 PM   #18
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The game is a little more complicated than that: Initially is was about Owning a Crown. And then it came to be parlaying what I owned into "The One". Which I now own. Then it became about Investment. Buying wisely and reselling. And importantly ensuring these machines didn't end up at the scrapper. With the side aspect of getting these Crowns into hands where they would be revered and loved.

Don't get me wrong. It's not that I'm Joe Do Gooder. But if I can accomplish this make a little money along the way that's what I will do. It's fun, I'm rather proficient at it and it is better than having what liquidity I have laying fallow in a bank costing me purchasing power to "save".

Also when I do buy a Crown I try not to leave any stone unturned. If I have questions that aren't answered then I hire people to answer them for me. Sometimes there is a Seller that is aware knowledgeable and can answer any inquiry I have. Sometimes Not. When Not I've no qualms to pay a qualified individual to get those answers for me, take photo's of area's I need to see........and sometimes I have the chance to do this stuff myself.

So it's complicated. To that extent. I always make money from the Crowns I sell. I will not sell unless I get what I want. Personal Opinion? These are grossly undervalued Coaches. After I have gone to the trouble of vetting them, repairing or performing maintenance and am confident and comfortable that they will go anywhere I want them to go. I will not give them away. Every Crown that I have sold has a happy person living and loving there Crown............They are still in touch with me. I still get their photographs, their thanks and I walk them through any difficulties they may encounter. It's not a Policy. It's an affection.

None of this to toot my own Horn. You asked I answered. But I love these Crowns as you know. Until proven otherwise by anyone, they are the best built, best handling Coaches ever made. And their styling alone is worth the price of admission.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:56 PM   #19
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Thanks for the answer... I was only curious why a guy would need so many cool old buses.
I do hate to see the prices get so jacked. Undervalued or not.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:12 PM   #20
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The game is a little more complicated than that: Initially is was about Owning a Crown. And then it came to be parlaying what I owned into "The One". Which I now own. Then it became about Investment. Buying wisely and reselling. And importantly ensuring these machines didn't end up at the scrapper. With the side aspect of getting these Crowns into hands where they would be revered and loved.

Don't get me wrong. It's not that I'm Joe Do Gooder. But if I can accomplish this make a little money along the way that's what I will do. It's fun, I'm rather proficient at it and it is better than having what liquidity I have laying fallow in a bank costing me purchasing power to "save".

Also when I do buy a Crown I try not to leave any stone unturned. If I have questions that aren't answered then I hire people to answer them for me. Sometimes there is a Seller that is aware knowledgeable and can answer any inquiry I have. Sometimes Not. When Not I've no qualms to pay a qualified individual to get those answers for me, take photo's of area's I need to see........and sometimes I have the chance to do this stuff myself.

So it's complicated. To that extent. I always make money from the Crowns I sell. I will not sell unless I get what I want. Personal Opinion? These are grossly undervalued Coaches. After I have gone to the trouble of vetting them, repairing or performing maintenance and am confident and comfortable that they will go anywhere I want them to go. I will not give them away. Every Crown that I have sold has a happy person living and loving there Crown............They are still in touch with me. I still get their photographs, their thanks and I walk them through any difficulties they may encounter. It's not a Policy. It's an affection.

None of this to toot my own Horn. You asked I answered. But I love these Crowns as you know. Until proven otherwise by anyone, they are the best built, best handling Coaches ever made. And their styling alone is worth the price of admission.
don't take my earlier post the wrong way either, was just an attempt at trying to be funny... If I had the opportunity, I'd do it in a heartbeat!

Your plan did not happen overnight, and it did require some thought to be where you're at now.... kinda like reaping the fruits from your 5 year plan, in the middle of the plan.... And I do admire that!
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