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Old 05-13-2019, 07:44 AM   #1
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Advice needed before I purchase a 1992, International 360

I may have finally found the mid-size bus I've been looking for - but I'd really appreciate your comments and advice.

The bus: 1992 Navistar International DTA 360 diesel engine 5.9L in line 6 cyl. 5 speed manual transmission. 55,400 miles. Body model: Carpenter SB-2508. Wheelbase 218, 59 passenger, 30' long. They're asking $2,650

From reading lots of other threads, it looks like the 360 diesel is a workhorse engine, but not that great at speed - which isn't important to me. Given the mileage, I confirmed that the engine was replaced, but how do you know the mileage is for the installed engine?

I'm super excited to find a manual transmission - is there anything I should be aware of - or watch out for?

I know that Carpenter bodies are known to have the roof collapse if there is a rollover, but to be honest, I think a rollover would pretty much total the bus anyway.

The undercarriage looks pretty good - and I'm having a diesel mechanic inspect the engine.
- Is there anything else I should be looking at / for?
- The price seems about right to me - is it?

I trust and welcome your wisdom (and snidely comments), so PLEASE I'd appreciate your input before I pull the trigger and buy this bus!

Thanks & Cheers, Kathy
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:12 AM   #2
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I may have finally found the mid-size bus I've been looking for - but I'd really appreciate your comments and advice.

The bus: 1992 Navistar International DTA 360 diesel engine 5.9L in line 6 cyl. 5 speed manual transmission. 55,400 miles. Body model: Carpenter SB-2508. Wheelbase 218, 59 passenger, 30' long. They're asking $2,650

From reading lots of other threads, it looks like the 360 diesel is a workhorse engine, but not that great at speed - which isn't important to me. Given the mileage, I confirmed that the engine was replaced, but how do you know the mileage is for the installed engine?

I'm super excited to find a manual transmission - is there anything I should be aware of - or watch out for?

I know that Carpenter bodies are known to have the roof collapse if there is a rollover, but to be honest, I think a rollover would pretty much total the bus anyway.

The undercarriage looks pretty good - and I'm having a diesel mechanic inspect the engine.
- Is there anything else I should be looking at / for?
- The price seems about right to me - is it?

I trust and welcome your wisdom (and snidely comments), so PLEASE I'd appreciate your input before I pull the trigger and buy this bus!

Thanks & Cheers, Kathy
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:19 AM   #3
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Give Chris aka CadillacKid a shout. He's got a Carpenter with a DT360.
He likes it but he could tell you about any of its possible faults or shortcomings.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:49 AM   #4
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I really don't want to know what that pole in the middle of the floor was for. If it rotates, that's probably a dead giveaway of what this bus was used for.
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I was gonna wait for the OP to reply before asking about the stripper's pole!
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I really don't want to know what that pole in the middle of the floor was for. If it rotates, that's probably a dead giveaway of what this bus was used for.
The black-out scheme and benches facing the pole made me think it was maybe once a whiskey-a-Go-Go that goes...
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:29 AM   #6
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Yeah - it was listed as a "Party Bus". I'm sure it's a stripper/dancing pole. Gonna have to scour and bleach every surface in there if I buy the bus! EWWWWWwwww
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:29 AM   #7
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It does have that sketchy, decadent look to it...
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Yeah - it was listed as a "Party Bus". I'm sure it's a stripper/dancing pole. Gonna have to scour and bleach every surface in there if I buy the bus! EWWWWWwwww
I recommend that Level A decon protocols be stringently adhered to:
Fully encapsulating suit, taped at wrists & ankles, with the self-contained breathing apparatus (Scottpak) inside it, full-face respirator, face shield, rubber overboots, and at least one full box of nitrite gloves.
Or you can cauterize it.
Can probably rent a flame thrower from United or Sunbelt Rentals...
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Funny how "prison bus" and "party bus" both require the same level of decontamination. Those damned bodily fluids!
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funny how "prison bus" and "party bus" both require the same level of decontamination. Those damned bodily fluids!
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