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Old 01-12-2016, 01:33 PM   #11
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So, not to hijack, but also looking for a first. How's this?

98 BB 84 passenger with rear Cummins 8.3L 250 HP engine, Allison Auto MD3060 under 100k. Good engine/tranny combo? Value?

Thanks!
Retail at a dealer asking price would be in the $8-12K range.

Auction price would be in the $2-6K range.

The 8.3L 250 HP and MD3060 is one of the best power packages out there. Unfortunately you can't turn the HP on up very much more. It isn't that the engine can't be turned up but you run out of cooling capacity really quick if you turn the HP up very much. Max from the factory was about 285 HP.
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:46 PM   #12
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If it aint rusty, JUMP on it. But in 98, it may have been the electronic version.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:36 PM   #13
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So if you go to publicsurplus you'll find the busses in Washington being auctioned. They're 1997 bluebirds with md3060 and 8.3ta Cummins . they seem pretty rust free and I kind of want to travel from mi and get one. I feel as if they're worth 2000 easy. My girlfriend seems to think I should wait for something close like Kentucky or something but I think with the condition of these busses it might be worth it. Also I wasn't originally looking to get the md3060 because I thought it was just on newer busses out of my price range. I want to bid on them up to 2500 but any advice is appreciated !
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One just sold for $3250
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:38 PM   #14
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If it aint rusty, JUMP on it. But in 98, it may have been the electronic version.
It is clean, and newbie question here: what might have been the electronic version and do I need to worry if it was?
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:47 PM   #15
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Some prefer the all mechanical simplicity of the non-electronic stuff. If you don't plan on working on your own stuff, then it won't matter. Some hardy folks here are into electronic injection stuff. Just something to consider when buying.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:45 PM   #16
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Any unit with a lot of computers in charge of everything will be vastly more expensive if any repairs are necessary. Just like cars, the electronics are what drive up maintenance and repairs. When I was shopping engines, even the techs at Cummins advised me against their newer engines in favor of an older all mechanical based on their blue book rates for service. If you are a whiz bang hacker, you might be able to deal with them but a lot of us old school gearheads like to keep things simple.

PS...I had to pay nearly twice the money to get a rebuilt all mechanical. Seems nobody else wants to deal with the new fangled ones either.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:53 PM   #17
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Won one of the auctions
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:04 PM   #18
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Anyone have any experience shipping a bus?
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:16 PM   #19
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There are several companies that will ship buses across the country.

Most charge $1.50-$2.00 per mile.

You might call Midwest Transit in Kankakee, IL and ask them who they use.
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Anyone have any experience shipping a bus?
Where do you need need your new bus to go?
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