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Old 04-23-2016, 12:00 PM   #31
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My 643 did ok when I went down Monteagle in TN, but the REAL mountains out west... I'd want a retarder.
You can get around having one, but we are talking about planning ahead here.



This is nothing compared to the Rockies!
it sounds like it ran nice N smooth.. what did you do take it down to 3rd gear?

I was out in utah this week for work and noticed almost ALL the school bus in the town south of SLC where i was were thomas and bluebird RE's (big long ones) and it sounded like they had Jake brakes.. now mind you I dont know the differenct between a retarder and a jake brake but it sounded loud like what the semis have...
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it sounds like it ran nice N smooth.. what did you do take it down to 3rd gear?

I was out in utah this week for work and noticed almost ALL the school bus in the town south of SLC where i was were thomas and bluebird RE's (big long ones) and it sounded like they had Jake brakes.. now mind you I dont know the differenct between a retarder and a jake brake but it sounded loud like what the semis have...
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I just put it in "3".
I doubt school buses have jakes. They're expensive. But the schools out west get a lot more funding than our third world schools in FL.
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I just put it in "3".
I doubt school buses have jakes. They're expensive. But the schools out west get a lot more funding than our third world schools in FL.

they also have real mountains to go up and down on regular school routes every day... whats the difference between a retarder and a jake?
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they also have real mountains to go up and down on regular school routes every day... whats the difference between a retarder and a jake?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobs_Vehicle_Systems



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retard...l_engineering)
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Here's where I got mine. This sale is tomorrow, so no short notice or anything.

Scroll down. First bus is a front engine 5.9 24v, but I believe the rest are 8.3 Cummins engines with retarders. Some are ADA equipped, a couple aren't.

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