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Old 03-13-2012, 03:17 PM   #21
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HipHippie, I think your luke-warm reception was largely due to the fact that your first post on the forum was to try to sell your bus in the classified section. Most on this board are pretty decent and friendly folk, but my knee-jerk reaction (and likely others as well) was "who is this person coming around trying to dump this over-priced bus?!" If you are keeping the bus after all I suggest you start a thread in the "Skoolie Conversion Projects" section and show us some pics, tell us about your bus, your situation, etc. I think you will get a very different (and much more positive) reaction. Lots of helpful and knowledgeable people here. Also a few cranky and knowledgeable people!

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:38 PM   #22
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Well, I'm not going to apologize for what I said. And the only sarcasm I found was from Frank-id and Hiphippie. And I wasn't kidding about Frank buying the bus either. I think he should. Anyone who has been reading these forums for any length of time will have realized that we are all building very customized RVs. Some of us are building to suit a very narrow need. Others are more widely adaptable. And others you just have to wonder about. None of us realistically do not expect to get anything remotely close to what we have sunk into the buses. Custom means it fits our own individual warped desires and/or needs. If we didn't want a custom unit, then we all would have bought a cookie cutter sticks-&-staples RV. Few, if any, of us are "saving" $$ when to factor in the $$, sweat and time involved. I figure that David & I will live in this BlueBird until the day they pry the keys out of my cold dead hand. I also intend on outliving David (my life expectancy is 92+yo according to one of those online age calculators). That is part of the reason we have been so slow about the conversion (and we're broke). Since moving in here full time back in Dec, we have made several changes. Now, it's only changes on paper, if we had been farther into the conversion (or completed) it would have been a pricey remodel since part of the changes have been to the floor plan. Part of these changes would not be suited for folks other than David & I. But there is one thing that many do not take into account... INSULATION! It's to keep the outside temps outside. Whether it's hot temps or cold temps, you just really need to insulate.

BTW, my reaction to most of the For Sale ads is "What were they thinking?". The majority of them are, to me, a "gut-it & rebuild" project. I just like my stuff to suit me, not other people.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:53 PM   #23
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Damn...well said lorna....custom is...
Well just...custom
Anything custom built fits the person who built it,it doesn't matter if it's "pimp my ride" 1988 escort

Everything fits a seperate person...those that make comments ,do so cause "it" doesn't fit their idea of what "custom"is
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:02 AM   #24
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Well, I'm not going to apologize for what I said....
Lorna, that's OK, you just gave the naked truth in blunt English. I did think the ridicule on the part of certain others was, well, unnecessary although natural. As for my posts, well, they were blunt, too; sometimes I apologize too quickly.

I think I would get a whole lot more ridicule if I put an ad here offering to trade my stix-n-staples RV for a good self-contained skoolie.

Hiphippie, I had the same mistaken notions about the value of a skoolie until...um, I joined Skoolie.net. After reading lots of stuff here, my sense of value shifted to what a conversion's usefulness would be to my significant other and me...and to our pets. A good school-bus conversion isn't necessarily "cheap" to create - certainly more than you'll get back for it, but then again, considering what commercial coach builders would charge, I think is a good value.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:38 PM   #25
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He's got the mother of gas guzzlers and its old on top of that and wants 9 grand. Gasoline is 5 bucks a gallon he's gotta be a realative of Nancy Polosi.
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He's got the mother of gas guzzlers and its old on top of that and wants 9 grand. Gasoline is 5 bucks a gallon he's gotta be a relative of Nancy Pelosi
Back in 2007, bdavis441 wrote, "All of the people here [at Skoolie.net] are great! no attitudes, no BS. Disagreements are handled respectfully and the knowledge base is unsurpassed. Some of the 4x4 sites seem to be full of jr. high school kids with super smartass attitudes....Ridiculous! I think we are a different type of people here." What happened since?
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:08 PM   #27
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I think I would get a whole lot more ridicule if I put an ad here offering to trade my stix-n-staples RV for a good self-contained skoolie.
Just the thought, gets me all fired up for a new thread :P
Hey, while I am not a fan of the stix-n-staples RVs, our Class C has been good for us. I would even go so far as to suggest that those who have little experience in Rving and want to build their bus into one, would be well served to spend a year camping OFTEN in a cheap S-N-S unit that is slightly smaller than the bus planned on. I say slightly smaller because you can always "spread out" later and smaller because, you may find you really don't NEED a 40 footer! We have a 40 ft bus simply because it was for sale at the right time and the right price (we needed a cheap moving van big enough to hold all the stuff). Before we were in our Class C for a full year (fulltimers) we realized we needed about 4 more ft than the 22 ft (19 ft livable) we had. This was because we really did not like the "all in one"bathroom (might be good for weekending, but sucks for fulltime) and with a 12+ mile trip to get to the nearest laundromat, I wanted my own washer and dryer (not the Wonder Washer/crank wringer/clothesline I was using.... BTW, I can make it rain ). We started out listing what DIDN'T work for us in the Class C, then we listed what we DID like. Next was a list of what we felt we needed (like a washer/dryer... we still work and while we don't keep a more than 8 to 10 days of clothes on hand, I like to be able to wash clothes at night). After that we added a "wish list" of things that we would like but wasn't a big deal if we didn't get it, like a bigger water heater... 6 gal is okay but with a washer and a dishwasher (please, please, please) a bigger water heater would be a huge plus. We lived in the Class C from Fall 2006 thru Nov 2011. Part of that time was with a 3rd person (our daughter... July 2009 thru Nov 2011... it was a tad too tight... but doable... now she is doing her "stint" in the Class C to learn her needs/wants/wishes for her bus conversion). The dog and cat actually took up more room when we had them. But we lived in it full time thru several states (GA, NC, TN, TX, & NM) and thru all the seasons. I'm not sure which is more of a challenge... summer heat waves or sub freezing single digit winter storms. Insulated holding tanks are needed for both extremes. Thanks to the Class C, we knew pretty much how we wanted to convert the bus. Living in the bus with minimal work done on it has also helped us tweak our floor plan. I do abhor the poor construction and the cheap materials (which is also a learning experience). I do think that 99% of the manufactured RVs are unsafe to dangerous. But we sure did learn a lot so don't put them down too much. They do have a good service to provide. Plus you can get a feel for Rving if you have not done much of it.

That time spent in the Class C with all it's "RV" appliances is why we want very little "RV" stuff in our bus. I know some of you guys are putting RV stuff in your buses and that's fine for you. But after living with the RV stuff and having to replace some of the expensive stuff from RV stores that are far from us (always when we have to replace something), we decided to build our bus with components that are readily available from the big box lumber stores (Lowes/Home Depot) or places like ACE/True Value Hardware. It seems the "RV" stuff is 2X or 3X the price of similar "home" stuff and is not made as well. I do not put the Shurflo 2088 Classic water pump in that category nor would I extend the same exemption to their "fancy" more expensive RV pumps. A side note... My 30" home GE Profile gas oven uses much LESS LP than the 22" Magic chef RV range in the Class C (we normally used 1 20# tank LP per month - cooking only, now it's lasting 6 to 8 weeks and I'm baking/cooking with LP far more than I did in the Class C since we had a countertop toaster oven in the Class C). I had the stove and had used it very little since we were always gone so I kept it (I like the way it bakes). I wouldn't go out and buy one new (they are running around $1K for similar model) but I would buy a lower priced (used?) home range and install. Until we switched over to the bus and using my old gas range, it never occurred to me that the RV range was such a gas hog. I knew it baked poorly (even with the quarry tiles in the bottom) and cycled on/off often... but this is a big difference. Now the energy consumption may not be a big deal for those who only weekend, for us it is a big deal. This is our house and I would like to be as energy efficient as we can without spending huge $$. Sometimes our electric is included in our site rent, other times we will be paying it per KWH. To reduce our consumption is a priority, both for our pocketbook and I do not want to be an energy hog, thereby giving schoolbus conversions a bad name. RV stuff seems to be exempt from energy efficiency. You never see those little yellow stickers on them giving the amount of energy used like you do on home appliances.... WHY?
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:13 AM   #28
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I think a washer/dryer is a great idea for rv.. whether it be bus or s/s. Dishwasher not.. with throw away plates, etc. mostly pans need washing... and millie does that. Also good idea to have extra things on hand like extra water pump, etc. Normal small gas range that my mom has in the apartment i built for her 10 yrs ago doesn't use any more propane than my rv stove.. and her oven is far better. so buying a small apt range is really a good idea.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:28 PM   #29
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I think a washer/dryer is a great idea for rv.. whether it be bus or s/s. Dishwasher not.. with throw away plates, etc... so buying a small apt range is really a good idea.
I loathe doing dishes. David merely dislikes doing dishes. We would go broke if we only used paper plates. Besides, we only eat sandwiches & "dry" foods on "paper"... waxed paper deli sheets.. so much cheaper than paper plates... 1000 sheets for $11.88 . and doesn't fill up the trash can so fast.


You are thinking from a "weekender" point of view. As a fulltime home, I prefer more "home" stuff in the bus.

RE: apt ranges... I have used them and I really liked mine (hated the one my mom had in the cabin). I would cook 25 LB turkeys in it for Thanksgiving. Last turkey I cooked in my countertop electric turkey roaster oven. I set it outside on the picnic table while I cooked pies in the RV oven.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:04 PM   #30
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im thinking from a weekend point of view.. but have been on road several yrs in the previous 4 busses, and always used paper plates... have properties on east n west coast, just gonna live in bus again when i get this one finished...
well, i will probably get another one for each side of the states...
we even use paper plates at home, with holders...
wal mart, etc is for trash...
as for washer/dryer... i was going to buy one of those combo ones from camping world, after having a stacking unit in last coach... but the discussion on the bcm website about them today led me to believe that the old 110v stacking ones are probably still better than the new camping world one... now i just need to find another, but the used ones are hard to find around here.. dont know how many gallons of water they use at each wash, but the camping world ones use 10-12 gallons... But... im not too worried.. i have almost 160 fresh water. n huge other tanks.
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