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Old 12-19-2016, 04:26 PM   #11
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Good Questions....

I have zero idea about which model transmission and engine. Most of the 44 passenger BlueBirds appear to have the same Cummins engine but the valve cover doesn't specify a model.

I'll try to find out.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:34 PM   #12
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you blew the engine that quick?

I thought you had it fixed..
Its not fixed yet, my work schedule has prevented me from getting back up there. i hope to get up during the xmas break
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Old 12-19-2016, 05:12 PM   #13
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24...RE, under storage and the seats are out.

a couple of them have allison 3060's
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:03 PM   #14
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HUGE difference in value between an AT545 and any later Allie tranny.
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:40 PM   #15
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I have zero idea about which model transmission and engine. Most of the 44 passenger BlueBirds appear to have the same Cummins engine but the valve cover doesn't specify a model.

I'll try to find out.
Find one with a representative engine and post the VIN: one can get the engine type from that. For the transmission types, the parts department can tell you from the VIN (at least the International guys can; presumably the other manufacturers can as well).
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:36 AM   #16
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Find one with a representative engine and post the VIN: one can get the engine type from that. For the transmission types, the parts department can tell you from the VIN (at least the International guys can; presumably the other manufacturers can as well).
Bluebird dealers can do the same for you with Bluebird buses.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:47 AM   #17
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I have zero idea about which model transmission and engine. Most of the 44 passenger BlueBirds appear to have the same Cummins engine but the valve cover doesn't specify a model.

I'll try to find out.
Post pictures. Someone here will tell you which engine or transmission is pictured.

As far as the cummins go, the difference between an 8.3 and a 5.9 is pretty plain. If you look at the corner of the front engine cover where the injection pump mounts, the 8.3 has a radiused corner the 5.9 has a 45deg chamfer.

Also, the injectors on the 8.3 are on the same side of the engine as the injection pump. On the 5.9 the injectors are on the opposite side from the injection pump.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:54 AM   #18
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On the 5.9 the injectors are on the opposite side from the injection pump.
That's only true of the 12 valve. On the ISB, the injectors were put on the pump side of the head.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:57 AM   #19
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That's only true of the 12 valve. On the ISB, the injectors were put on the pump side of the head.
I stand corrected.

I guess the shape of the front engine cover is the best "tell tale".
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5...i0xUnc2anhzUk0

Thats a link to the picture. For some reason, I can't get the pic to show up in the post. Hosting them from my google drive account.



The VIN for this Bus is: 1BAAGCPA11F097833
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