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Old 06-02-2019, 05:54 AM   #1
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[Buy] T444E 2002 engine

Hi! probably our T444E engine is dying, maybe some of You have one in good condition for sale? Or You know where try to find one?
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:20 AM   #2
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Hi! probably our T444E engine is dying, maybe some of You have one in good condition for sale? Or You know where try to find one?

What's wrong with yours?
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:59 AM   #3
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Hi, I wrote about this here:

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f37/t4...ing-25876.html
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:21 AM   #4
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The T444E's are pretty robust engines so unless yours has suffered a major failure - using a *LOT* of oil, overheated, cracked block/heads, been run dry of oil (crank/cylinder wall damage), or something equally bad then yours should be fixable.


My bus (with same engine) starts easily after a day or so, but if it's been sitting a few days, I have to turn it over a bit longer. Is my fuel bleeding down? Is it my HPOP oil bleeding down? I'm not entirely sure and haven't done any diagnostic on it yet, but it has yet to fail me after a couple tries on the starter and as such it's been a low priority for me. Will it get worse over time? Probably. Will I diagnose it? Again, probably, when I have time and resources to devote to it.
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:29 AM   #5
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I don’t know how to check HPOP oil bleding. And still not found mechanic who can diagnose this engine Portugal and Spain are strange countries.
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:29 AM   #6
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Jafuzz, your other thread went dead in march..
What happened in the last two months as far as troubleshooting / repairs that you think you need a new motor? Is this bus/motor now in the USA or with you in europe?



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Old 06-02-2019, 10:34 AM   #7
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Still in Europe. I visited 4 or 5 mechanics specialized in dissel engines. And they don’t know solution. I mraured sensors, changed oil and nothing more. I don’t have energy to search and still no help from nobody here.
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:40 AM   #8
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So has it gotten worse in the past few months, or is it just that it takes a few seconds of cranking to start?

Sounds like it still needs troubleshooting, but also sounds like something I could deal with.
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:45 AM   #9
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It is beeing worst... in march engine have no problem with starting, when it was hot. Now, when i'm turning it on, after 6-7 hours of not working, it starts, then turn of and akes something about 10s with pushing gas pedal to start it...
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:06 AM   #10
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Is it still experiencing the need to be run in the evening, to assure a start the next morning?
Wasn't your mechanic able to check the systems that coded:

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Thanks for help! We read codes in our computer. We have:
111, 155, 124, 211
We checked on the list and they are:
111 - no codes detected (it is my favorite) ;)
155 - intake air signal to High
124 - iniection pressure signal Low
211 - engine oil pressure signal Low
What now?
I'm no diesel mechanic, altho I do play one on TV...
It would seem, if 155 is to be believed; insufficient fuel is being delivered to the combustion chambers for the volume of air. Too lean with too much air. At least, that's how it works in internal combustion motors...
124 would seem to corroborate that theory. Altho maybe also, injector blockages. Doesn't take much of a speck to lodge up in there, and really bung up the works! Less likely, but I'd be wondering at the state of your glow plugs.
If your 444 feels even more gutless than usual while driving, I'm suspecting fuel delivery is somehow impeded: the pumps ain't pumping as they should, constriction(s) in the line, more fuel being diverted back to the tank than ought be (which likely accounts for both the repressurizing required in the PM, and the fuel starvation. Sounds like any blockage is downstream from the fuel return...).
Last we heard, you were waiting on filters from Amazon. Did you put fresh filters on? The problem could reside there, too.
Finally, is there water in the bowl? If there is, and the mechanic didn't address that, I'd say flush that joker and find another!
211 is of concern, too. Starved of lubrication; friction, heat, and galling will turn any engine into an over-sized, extra-heavy paper-weight. Couldn't the mech check your oil pressure at the engine? At the very least, what's the dash gauge report to you?
What does the engine oil dipstick show upon checking before starting it up? And how many klicks have all y'all driven since collecting the above codes?

Edit: saw the 2 preceding posts came while I was writing.
Somebody correct me if I'm in error, but one does not pump the throttle pedal on a diesel, as with a gas engine...
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