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07-01-2018, 01:11 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Pendleton Indiana
Posts: 348
Year: 2010
Coachwork: IC
Engine: MF DT466
Rated Cap: 81
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CL mt 643
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/...596922028.html
Dont know how great a deal this is but did not seem bad for a rebuilt. Thought I would throw it out there.
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07-01-2018, 01:52 PM
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#2
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Montana/Texas
Posts: 682
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Crown by Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 230 HP DT 466e/MT 643!
Rated Cap: 16
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That's a good deal! I wish that one was around when my AT545 crapped out.
John
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07-01-2018, 02:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I disagree. You can spend a lot less money and get one rebuilt by the manufacturer.
https://www.lkqheavytruck.com/search...1&searchpage=3
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07-01-2018, 02:26 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
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How much does Allison charge for a rebuild?
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07-01-2018, 02:29 PM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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My understanding is that they no longer offer them, and that LKQ bought their remaining inventory.
edit: in case it wasn't clear, those transmissions are already rebuilt by the manufacturer.
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07-01-2018, 02:34 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
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Elaborate on this, it contradicts your next post?
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07-01-2018, 02:37 PM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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The transmissions in the link are fresh rebuilds from the OEM.
You're getting one that has already been rebuilt by the OEM, not getting one and having it rebuilt by the OEM.
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07-01-2018, 02:39 PM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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You may need to scroll down to see those as they lump them all together, used next to rebuilds. The fresh rebuilds are the $645 price transmissions.
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07-01-2018, 02:41 PM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
The transmissions in the link are fresh rebuilds from the OEM.
You're getting one that has already been rebuilt by the OEM, not getting one and having it rebuilt by the OEM.
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Poster said it was a good deal. You replied that you disagreed, that you could get one cheaper from the manufacturer. Then you say the factory is no longer doing it.
I think $950 is a great deal. I guarantee you will likely not find, purchase, and rebuild one for cheaper.
Edit: I do see LKQ does have some cheap prices, hard to find a rebuilt auto tranny that cheap.
Figured I'd check their prices for a 3060, high as $5625 or as low as $1326
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07-01-2018, 02:43 PM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I'm afraid we're out of sync on this. Please read the last few posts because I think the forum has caused you to miss a few things!
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07-01-2018, 02:44 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Poster said it was a good deal. You replied that you disagreed, that you could get one cheaper from the manufacturer. Then you say the factory is no longer doing it.
I think $950 is a great deal. I guarantee you will likely not find, purchase, and rebuild one for cheaper.
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Christopher just got an OEM Reman 643 with reman 2600 rpm T/C for $650. I believe he got it from LKQ.
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07-01-2018, 02:44 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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That's literally the link I posted.
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07-01-2018, 02:51 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
I'm afraid we're out of sync on this. Please read the last few posts because I think the forum has caused you to miss a few things!
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I was confused because you said Allison would rebuild it cheaper and then you came back with a reply to your own thread stating that Allison won't do it anymore. I got it now. 
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07-01-2018, 03:21 PM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Yeah you're too fast with reading, I edited the first comment with the details super fast but you'd already read it by then, and we were leap frogging for ta minute there!
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07-18-2018, 04:21 PM
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#15
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: AmTram
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 45 passenger
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I just spoke to LKQ. They still have several MT643 rebuilds available for $650. Looks like I'm going to get one to replace the 545 trans in my 95 Genesis Amtram. DT466.
Is there anything I should ask about or request?
Thanks.
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07-18-2018, 05:50 PM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,833
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skalbus
I just spoke to LKQ. They still have several MT643 rebuilds available for $650. Looks like I'm going to get one to replace the 545 trans in my 95 Genesis Amtram. DT466.
Is there anything I should ask about or request?
Thanks.
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I havent yet gotten mine installed due to work obligations .. but the trans came with all the docs and everything that its a real reman and not just a used trans painted..
now if i can just find the time to get mine installed!
-Christopher
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07-18-2018, 06:03 PM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skalbus
I just spoke to LKQ. They still have several MT643 rebuilds available for $650. Looks like I'm going to get one to replace the 545 trans in my 95 Genesis Amtram. DT466.
Is there anything I should ask about or request?
Thanks.
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If they've got one that can work with my 3126 I'll order one next week.
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07-18-2018, 06:07 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,833
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
If they've got one that can work with my 3126 I'll order one next week.
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the ones they have are all 2600-2700 RPM units that were OEM reman by Navistar... the 643 itself is the same.. if your 3126 has a max RPM in that range it will work from a shift point standpoint.. you just need the support equipment as i mentioned...
-Christopher
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07-18-2018, 06:13 PM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
the ones they have are all 2600-2700 RPM units that were OEM reman by Navistar... the 643 itself is the same.. if your 3126 has a max RPM in that range it will work from a shift point standpoint.. you just need the support equipment as i mentioned...
-Christopher
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I believe my Cat has a 2400 rpm redline.
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07-18-2018, 06:23 PM
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#20
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: AmTram
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 45 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
I havent yet gotten mine installed due to work obligations .. but the trans came with all the docs and everything that its a real reman and not just a used trans painted..
now if i can just find the time to get mine installed!
-Christopher
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Yeah I understand that. Time is always the issue here too.
But I'm not getting any younger so the conversion is moving up the list.
I'm wondering if I will need to replace the flex plate as well? I know I'll need to shorten the drive shaft and possibly modify the cross member.
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