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Old 01-24-2015, 04:11 PM   #41
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That's a fact...........West Coast all the way...............

That sometimes works to my benefit. In the case of the Hewlett Packard Crown the folks I bought it from didn't know much about buses and surely didn't know anything about Crowns. Which allowed me to pick up an extremely rare Crown..........35 foot Intercity, mid engine with a raised roof.

Hewlett Packard in 1966 had four Crowns custom made: Two were 40ft raised roof tandems and two were 35 foot single axle raised roof. All were of the intercity highway coach variety. Not "School buses". Each came off the line with a 220 NA Cummins and a 13 speed Spicer. The HP Intercity I own was bought at auction, and the guy got it very cheap. I arranged the purchase through the auction house from the buyer. I paid a fairly handsome premium for that privilege. roughly just shy of 3 times what the auction price was..........

I found paperwork in this Coach that it had received trade in values in its long history. Most recent was 2005..........where it was traded in for 78K............In pretty close to the condition, in terms of amenities that I received it. However, It had issues, especially the brakes. Which literally, from the canisters, to the canister rods, to the treadle valve, to the rear relay valve, shoes, had to be completely undone and redone.........7 days in that process alone. So to your point...........with new brakes, tires, a couple of new airbags, some wiring work and some fluid filter changes...........I'm into this Crown about 8500 bucks including purchase price. Had this Crown been on the West Coast it would have been snatched up by the "knowledgeable".

Because of the nature of the repairs I had to make, I was refused service by more people than I care to remember. They knew nothing about Crowns. I tried to tell them it didn't matter. That brakes, drive train, bags, steering, differential, axles, brakes, are all over the road class eight truck parts. Didn't seem to matter. No one wanted to look at it.

First photo is of the "new Crown" I picked up on my recent trip from Arlington WA. Which I drove to Gresham. 1982 671T 4 speed automatic. Second shot is of the Crown I picked up in Gresham and drove through the storm to Torrance. 1985 855 cubic inch big cam Cummins Turbo. Eaton Fuller 5 speed. Currently believed to be on its way to France. Last Photo is the 66 HP Intercity 375 HP big cam Cummins Turbo 5 speed Allison auto.
After delivering the Crown to Torrance, I flew out of LA to Tampa FL to pick up the HP and drove it to Vegas where it awaits my return end of May................


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Old 02-02-2015, 12:59 PM   #42
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Well for those who missed their chance to pay the last high bidder for the chance to own this bus. It's back...https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...7&acctid=2489#
since last August it has been auctioned and sold 4 times. Twice on Public Surplus and twice on GovDeals. Maybe the fifth time is the charm!
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:08 PM   #43
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Same thing happened to my bus. People didn't pay or answer calls or emails.
Too bad for them, its a GREAT bus.
I'm tempted to sell my meager belongings and hitchhike up to md for that bus...
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:19 PM   #44
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I bid on a van last summer. The bid trippled and I forgot about it. I received an email a week later that it was relisted. I rebid the same thing and won the auction $150 below my top bid. You nevery know with auctions.
As for me personally I really like the Thomas buses but I will not be buying one with a CAT engine....unless of course the price is too good to pass up this time!
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:47 PM   #45
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Does anyone have any input on that 2000 saf-t-liner specifically?

I'm currently shopping, and it keeps coming up on govdeals. But I read through the "smells like teen spirit" tread about the same make/model/district and the engine troubles he ran into give me major pause.

I could get to DC to pick it up, but probably not twice to inspect first and then again to pick up -- I'd have to be able to drive it out of there. Has anyone on here gone and kicked the tires on this thing? Why do folks keep passing on it? Is the CAT diesel with ~250K untrustable. Nice tranny though...
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Old 02-09-2015, 04:46 AM   #46
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I'm convinced its just shill bids. I'd buy it if Md weren't so damn far from here.
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:02 AM   #47
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If I were interested in the bus and thought it might really be a winner.............then I would find someone in the area and spend the money and have him do a full on inspection of the bus: start it, hear it, check gauges, lights, how quickly it airs up, look for leaks, rust, glass..............and I would also have him take a couple dozen pictures, under chassis, engine compartment dash etc etc etc etc................I don't believe that the CAT would be worn out: And the reason would be the transmission. One of the questions I'd be interested being answered is whether all six forward gears are programed.............which would give a double overdrive. I feel confident that 5 are programed..............and as i try to impress upon anyone buying school buses an overdrive will greatly extend the life of these buses.............4 speeds and a final drive ratio of 1:1 and numerically high axle ratios is not an optimum way to run a medium duty powered bus..............anyway if you are really interested finds someone to actually look at it for you............
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:10 AM   #48
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I doubt any school is going to have the 6th gear programmed.
For what the bus is going for, I'd be willing to roll the dice a bit. Would be nice to have a friendly local check it out, though.
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:13 AM   #49
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I'm not big on Rolling dice on School buses. Unless they're Crowns............but they really the only thing they have in common with a school bus is their color..........
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:15 AM   #50
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I am thinking about buying this one thought
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