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Old 09-10-2017, 10:09 AM   #1
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I will have seats available out of my bus soon they are a little nicer than the standard school bus seats some are in good shape some are a little worn. I have them for sale locally for a few bucks a piece but if anyone from this community can use them and wants to come get them they are yours. Storage around my place is at a premium so if I don't have a place for them to go soon they will get scraped out.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:03 PM   #2
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Wish I was closer, I would get 2
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:19 PM   #3
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Old 09-10-2017, 01:35 PM   #4
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:35 PM   #5
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where are they? i want those side panels with the A/C ducts in them!!!!
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:33 PM   #6
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I'm in the middle of Kansas, I haven't decided if I'm keeping the ductwork, I will probably be leaving at least one of the AC units. I'm not sure I'll need both once insulated or not
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:41 PM   #7
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definitely keep at least one A/C. if not both!!!

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Old 09-10-2017, 08:54 PM   #8
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definitely keep at least one A/C. if not both!!!

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I can't really think of any other reasonable way to keep 40' of bus cool going down the road. I really wanted to make a system that could run the compressor on 110 while parked the fans should be able to run on house batteries while stationary and should keep up as long as the unit doesn't run constantly. but I think the amp draw of a motor big enough to spin even one of the compressors will be too high. Seems like a waste to have 2 completely separate systems for air conditioning. I haven't completely given up hope there may be some experimenting in my future. I don't actually know how much HP it would take to spin the compressor at 2500 rpm maybe it's less than I think... you seem quite knowledgeable about AC Cadillac would it be feasible to run one of the units on shore power?
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:13 PM   #9
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I can't really think of any other reasonable way to keep 40' of bus cool going down the road. I really wanted to make a system that could run the compressor on 110 while parked the fans should be able to run on house batteries while stationary and should keep up as long as the unit doesn't run constantly. but I think the amp draw of a motor big enough to spin even one of the compressors will be too high. Seems like a waste to have 2 completely separate systems for air conditioning. I haven't completely given up hope there may be some experimenting in my future. I don't actually know how much HP it would take to spin the compressor at 2500 rpm maybe it's less than I think... you seem quite knowledgeable about AC Cadillac would it be feasible to run one of the units on shore power?
This is exactly what I want to do but have no clue how to make it happen.

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Old 09-10-2017, 09:22 PM   #10
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mechanical cooling takes Horseopower... there were busses which had pony engines that did just the Air-conditioners.. little mitsubishi engines with 20-40 Horsepower were common. these bus units are typically 50,000 + BTU each.. and you have 2... these units are designed to get cold not be efficient particularly.. so driving one with an electric motor is going to be a large FEAT..

the BEST scenerio for the most comfort is to have variable speed minisplits for Parked-Air. and then at least one bus unit for road-air.. after you imnsulate and remove / update windows you are not likel;y to need as much A/C as you have noiw, however one of those units.. re-ducted to provide its most cooling to the front of the bus is going to be welcome when you are driving down the highway into the summer sun..

I added custom Dash A/C to my DEV bus. and SOOO glad I did that!.. my red bus has a rear unit which cools great after I re-vamped it a bit. but needs to be ducted to the front as it makes the back of the bus a freezer while im just cool up front..
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:33 PM   #11
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I think it could be done relatively easily if you have the tools. A pulley would have to be made and attached that would bolt to the front of the compressor. This pulley would not be attached to the clutch. That pulley would be driven by a 110v motor of unknown size. The rest of the fans in the system run on 12 volt DC so they could run of your batteries/charger. I haven't gotten to far into the controls on my units but I think they are fairly basic high and low so it may be as easy as a relay or switch to source power to the fans from either truck or house batteries and putting a thermostat controlling relay that would control your D.C. Power to the fans and AC power to the compressor. The biggest problem I see is the amp draw for the motor running the compressor.

If you figure it out let me know!
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:43 PM   #12
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If I don't end up needing some of this duct you are welcome to it. I kind of doubt I'll use much of it, I need most of the space for storage.

What you are saying makes sense I feel like the motor that could run the compressor will be a huge load for the electrical system. I will do an amp draw on all of the fans that run when the AC is going they may be quite a bit as well.
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:06 AM   #13
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You would need a generator to drive the compressor motor for a system that large , plus a pretty darn big and heavy motor. By that time you may as well install separate aircon for being parked.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:11 PM   #14
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It would be cheaper and easier to put in a mini split for parked AC
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Old 09-21-2017, 06:08 AM   #15
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We started taking the seats out last night, they are coming out fairly easy and not getting torn up/cut in the process. I don't have room to keep them inside so they will be getting scrapped soon if anyone wants any and thinks they will be in the area I'll take some to the basement otherwise they will go straight to scrap/trash. Let me know so I can sort out the best ones
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We started taking the seats out last night, they are coming out fairly easy and not getting torn up/cut in the process. I don't have room to keep them inside so they will be getting scrapped soon if anyone wants any and thinks they will be in the area I'll take some to the basement otherwise they will go straight to scrap/trash. Let me know so I can sort out the best ones
I presume they are vinyl and not cloth seats? Do they recline? Can't really tell with the pics..... Sorry.

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Old 09-21-2017, 11:20 AM   #17
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They are vinyl and don't recline.
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