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Old 02-08-2017, 12:53 PM   #61
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Ah ok. It doesn't have the center pull "tab". These are tiny versions of the I beam rivets you see in the old movies.

Yep. Bridges, skyscrapers, ships, airplanes, they were used in a bunch of stuff. (Still used in airplanes.)



Here's an old railroad bridge in Durham that I snapped a picture of awhile back..


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Old 02-08-2017, 01:43 PM   #62
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Yes-, but you need long arms, as you have to back the mushroom side with a buck, while your gun smushes the pin side into a blob.

-Sorry about technical terms.
Yes, MuddaEarth had the gf/wife/main squeeze doing that.
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Old 02-08-2017, 01:45 PM   #63
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Yep. Bridges, skyscrapers, ships, airplanes, they were used in a bunch of stuff. (Still used in airplanes.)



Here's an old railroad bridge in Durham that I snapped a picture of awhile back..

Those I'm guessing they also used a lot of fire on the back side to help the blobbing.
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Smarta$s!!

He needs to paint it silver and then glue diamonds into the open rivets.

I think it's because it's a Ward. Don't have those around here and his first was a shorty. Caddy has two shorties and these two are in cahoots all the time.
I've never owned a shorty till last week dude. I think you've gotten confused.
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:29 PM   #65
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I've never owned a shorty till last week dude. I think you've gotten confused.
Apparently!! I thought you started with a shortie and just bought a long bus.
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Apparently!! I thought you started with a shortie and just bought a long bus.
Nope- first was a 40' Thomas with a Ford gasser and 545, total dog. Sold it when the code violations stacked up.

10 years or more pass by and I got a 92 Senator/AmTran. Love it even though its crusty. Its got a lot of great features, bells and whistles.

Picked up a short bus last week to pull the landscaping equipment I use three days a week and to take on trips around the state on weekends. A "field trip/work bus".
I don't even have to pull any seats or do anything to it to be legal. It can be enjoyed as-is!
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:56 PM   #67
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Nope- first was a 40' Thomas with a Ford gasser and 545, total dog. Sold it when the code violations stacked up.

10 years or more pass by and I got a 92 Senator/AmTran. Love it even though its crusty. Its got a lot of great features, bells and whistles.
There we go... gasser = shortie why in the hell would anyone put a gasser in a 40 ft bus?!??! And Senator, what the hell is that? Not Blue Bird, not International, not Thomas so it's either one of them weird West Coast bus like the Gilling (sp) or a short bus.

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I don't even have to pull any seats or do anything to it to be legal. It can be enjoyed as-is!
The seats are staying or already out? If staying, are you hauling around employees? I don't know even MD laws but I could see them being a bunch of douchenoodles if you got in a wreck without a CDL simply because an employee got hurt. FL isn't as retarded with stuff but still.
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There we go... gasser = shortie why in the hell would anyone put a gasser in a 40 ft bus?!??! And Senator, what the hell is that? Not Blue Bird, not International, not Thomas so it's either one of them weird West Coast bus like the Gilling (sp) or a short bus.

The seats are staying or already out? If staying, are you hauling around employees? I don't know even MD laws but I could see them being a bunch of douchenoodles if you got in a wreck without a CDL simply because an employee got hurt. FL isn't as retarded with stuff but still.
Its my personal vehicle, insured as such.
If it seated 15 or more i'd need a cdl in FL.
Employees?? LOL I'm self employed and work for a buddy a few days a week. My dog may go to work with me on occasion.
Senator was a model build by Ward in the early 90's. They were bought by International and renamed as the AmTran Genesis.

The 40' gasser was free. I wouldn't take another.
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https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/5960593560.html

Hey guys,

Is this a good deal?
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If it is as clean as it looks in the pics and has no issues I don't think the price is out of line.

I picked up one of similar spec but a few more miles (128k) for $2500 last October. I recently saw bidding on one go over $6000 on Ebay.
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A Ford with a 6.0L diesel is not bargain no matter how low the price might be.

A Chevy/GMC of nearly the same vintage with a 6.0L gas is going to get about 1 MPG less, have about the same amount of go, and it won't have the added aggravation of a diesel engine.
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If youre RICH or an ace mechanic the 6.0 Ford may be just the thing for you. Not so much for the rest of us.
I know guys who've lost tens of thousands on those engines.

I'd pay more for an older one with a 7.3
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A Ford with a 6.0L diesel is not bargain no matter how low the price might be.

A Chevy/GMC of nearly the same vintage with a 6.0L gas is going to get about 1 MPG less, have about the same amount of go, and it won't have the added aggravation of a diesel engine.
A GM 6.0 is a great engine!!! Our work truck has one and its survived 250,000 miles of solid abuse.
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