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Old 08-08-2018, 05:18 PM   #1
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Is this a good deal?

Hey All!

I need some help!

Looking at a 1978 MC5C Challenger / Silverside MCI bus / old Greyhound -- these are all the terms he mentioned that I jotted down

Doesn't know mileage, says there is no odometer, instead the axle reads out the rotation mileage?? Thinks there are roughly 400k

8V71 DETROIT / wasn't sure if it was an Allison trasmission
4 SPEED
AIR BRAKES
1 AXLE

Says there is no rust, drives great, no overheating issues, tires in good shape, glass in good shape .. claiming no issues with the bus.

Inside has new plumbing with toilet and grey and black tanks, Onan Generator, 5 or 7 gallon water heater, stainless steel double sink, big size fridge, just needs cabinetry and frame work built still for however we'd like our layout to be inside for beds. (this is nice for me, as I sort of wanted one that can be customized to our preferences.) Basically it has all the essentials for plumbing and the kitchen etc. and is ready to be built out.

He wants 10k. No, I don't have pictures yet, but working on it!! We're going to take a diesel mechanic out to look at it with us. Any suggestions for what to look for, or things to consider when buying one of these buses?

We want a bus to travel the US with our two kids for, hopefully, a year while we figure out where we'd like to relocate and settle down. Then we'll either sell it, or keep it for future RV style side trips.

Any help or insight is appreciated!!

Thank you!
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Old 08-08-2018, 05:37 PM   #2
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is this a deal?.....

I wish I could answer that. But, most of that depends on how you feel about it.

I would like to see you take it out for a drive. 30 minutes minimum, in the hottest part of the day. Up hills, the biggest ones you can find. Around in city streets, shifting and braking....

If the mechanical side of the machine cant get the job done, pretty much useless to you as a skoolie camper thingy then isnt it.

If the current owner cant do that then the price should drop.... nothin like a $10,000 paper weight. cept a $10,000 dollar trailer that will have an enormous towing bill.

If this think can pass the basic test drive, and check out...... then only you can decide if the price is right for you.... maybe even go look at other buses for a comparison. help set your gauge so you have a better idea of what is good for you. Hell, go test drive a$10,000 motor home. absorb the inputs, sleep on it, roll around with it in your mind a little.

then, if it moves you... and you feel good, do it. But if that little voice in the back of your head is saying no, no ,no dont do it..... think and feel about it.

regards, william
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Old 08-08-2018, 05:40 PM   #3
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I'd LOVE to have an MCI MC5!!
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:11 PM   #4
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Being an ex Greyhound driver, the no odometer thing is true, none of the Greyhound busses I drove had them.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:52 PM   #5
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I'd LOVE to have an MCI MC5!!
Ahh .. so, sounds good then! Thanks for the input (every little bit helps!!)
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:53 PM   #6
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Being an ex Greyhound driver, the no odometer thing is true, none of the Greyhound busses I drove had them.
Okay!! Thank you for that. I wasn't sure if he was bs'ing me. Can I find out mileage some other way? Do you know? Thanks!
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:56 PM   #7
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I wish I could answer that. But, most of that depends on how you feel about it.

I would like to see you take it out for a drive. 30 minutes minimum, in the hottest part of the day. Up hills, the biggest ones you can find. Around in city streets, shifting and braking....

If the mechanical side of the machine cant get the job done, pretty much useless to you as a skoolie camper thingy then isnt it.

If the current owner cant do that then the price should drop.... nothin like a $10,000 paper weight. cept a $10,000 dollar trailer that will have an enormous towing bill.

If this think can pass the basic test drive, and check out...... then only you can decide if the price is right for you.... maybe even go look at other buses for a comparison. help set your gauge so you have a better idea of what is good for you. Hell, go test drive a$10,000 motor home. absorb the inputs, sleep on it, roll around with it in your mind a little.

then, if it moves you... and you feel good, do it. But if that little voice in the back of your head is saying no, no ,no dont do it..... think and feel about it.

regards, william
Well, thank you for your insight. I appreciate it!! I will definitely mention to him we'd like to take it out for a drive for about an hour.

Thank you!
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:03 PM   #8
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the hub meter should give the mileage, that is what they are for, you need to find out if it was ever changed
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Old 08-20-2018, 12:11 PM   #9
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the hub meter should give the mileage, that is what they are for, you need to find out if it was ever changed
Oh, okay .. thank you very much!!
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:41 PM   #10
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And MC-5 with an 8V-71 is going to be a relatively quick bus. 5' shorter than an MC-7/8/9 with two axles instead of three with the same engine and transmission.

Parts and pieces are readily available. The axles, brakes, and wheel end parts are the same parts used on most of the MC-7/8/9 models. Common parts=lower costs.

Three things to look for on an MCI. The air suspension used air beams to help support the bus. While everything is stainless or really high grade steel that is basically impervious to corrosion that are some parts that can get rusty. The air beams on some of the parts that can get rotten. If there is any rot in the air beams the repairs are doable but not cheap.

Second, a stick shift means it won't have the issues of overheating as much as an MC-7/8/9 that has an automatic transmission. But it will still overheat on a long steep grade on a hot day. It is the nature of the beast. That can be helped if the cooling system is in good repair. Good radiators, tight and leak proof blower box, high capacity blowers, and a free turning blower shaft will help to keep things cool.

Third, power steering was an option that wasn't always chosen. Power steering is a big plus but not a deal killer. But no power steering and a stick shift should work against the cost.

$10K sounds affordable. If there is no rust, the tires are decent, and it drives okay would warrant the price as long as the conversion is well done and everything works.

Since it is a supposedly ready to use conversion the more things that are not right the more you can beat up on the price. On the other hand, the more that things are good the more the asking price is reasonable.

Good luck and happy trails to you!
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