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Old 04-13-2019, 07:48 PM   #1
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Hello!
I am planning to start converting a bus in May, and would like to find one by the end of this month. I’m looking for a short/mid size dog nose school bus (‘99 or earlier), preferably 8 windows but anywhere from 6-10 is good. Want a DT engine, under 200k miles, and under $4K. I’m willing to travel anywhere in Florida, I am mostly in the Fort Myers and Orlando area, but out of state is okay if shipping is available. Picture is a doodle of proposed dream bus. If anyone has advice on places to look please share! I’ve been checking govdeals, publicsurplus, eBay, purplewave, Facebook marketplace & more everyday.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:56 AM   #2
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I found a really nice clean 99 international 3800 with Thomas body and a dt466e engine auto trans. It has about 153k miles and very little rust it seems. Iím really interested but the man is asking 6500 and said he paid more than 3.5k for it 😬😬
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:22 AM   #3
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He paid what it's worth.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:30 PM   #4
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I think the same but I’m having a hard time finding one like it so close to me and in good condition
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Old 04-16-2019, 05:18 PM   #5
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I think the same but I’m having a hard time finding one like it so close to me and in good condition
If I waited for what I want close to me , good condition and cheap, I would probably never own a bus. I think it is one of the most important parts of this journey, the initial purchase. I went 2500 miles for mine and even after gas I still have less in it than anything comparable I've seen since.
Join the community and go to the UserCP in the upper left and fill out your profile so we know a bit about you and where you are so we can assist finding a bus for you.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:13 PM   #6
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Found another 99' international 3800 w/ the dt466e, not sure how many miles but its going for 5k. I'm gonna go see it this weekend.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:24 AM   #7
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Found another 99' international 3800 w/ the dt466e, not sure how many miles but its going for 5k. I'm gonna go see it this weekend.
That is the better bus. It's a high roof model. I'm 6' even and I can stand with easily 6" of headroom in my high roof Thomas. This really do want a high roof with a Thomas as the sides by the windows taper in making a roof raise harder
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:53 AM   #8
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Someone told me the at545 one the last bus has is a bad combo with the engine, I found this 9 window (!!!) dt466e and called about the trans and was told its allison auto 2300 series, although it looks rustier than the others its smaller like I prefer, its 4k
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:22 PM   #9
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Someone told me the at545 one the last bus has is a bad combo with the engine, I found this 9 window (!!!) dt466e and called about the trans and was told its allison auto 2300 series, although it looks rustier than the others its smaller like I prefer, its 4k
The DT466e and Allison 2000 is a very desirable drive train.

I would be very cautious considering the rust. Careful that you understand the scope of the project.
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:16 PM   #10
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So the one I last posted had some strange engine noise so the seller was very honest and told me he didnít wanna sell it to me and showed me the difference in sound between that one and another identical one. I bought the identical one, itís being shipped to my family home as I move out of my apartment this week. So excited to start gutting next week.
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:39 PM   #11
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Gutting Tips

Any tips in the process and types of insulation for gutting and rebuilding? Or types of tools that helped? I also wonít be needing the wheelchair lift; how can I get that out / anywhere to drop it off that someone would be interested in it?
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:53 PM   #12
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Step one. fill out your bio so we know where you are, and what bus you have. include engine, trans and as much info as possible, it'll help us answer questions that might come up.

looks like the roof is attached with screws. impact driver and patience. there are hundreds of screws. I sold my wheelchair ramp. take pics and video of it in operation before you remove it. there was just a few bolts that held it in. I think I got $300 for it. keep it in and use it to remove the seats. My kids loved going up and down in that thing. I advise against it but I safely removed my wheelchair ramp alone using a loading ramp and slid it down. (things could have gone horribly wrong... HEAVY!)

Spray foam or rigid foam are options for insulation. I did rigid (you can see pics in my build thread LINK in signature). how much insulation depends on weather conditions you plan on seeing.
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Old 05-02-2019, 03:05 PM   #13
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Any tips in the process and types of insulation for gutting and rebuilding? Or types of tools that helped? I also wonít be needing the wheelchair lift; how can I get that out / anywhere to drop it off that someone would be interested in it?
Insulation:
Rigid insulation for flat surfaces works well. Spray foam for the hard to reach nooks and crannies. Curved surfaces can be spray foamed if you can afford it. Otherwise seal that roof really well and just use batts of insulation for the ceiling some buses come insulated but itís trash.

Tools:
Electric tools are easiest because you can use extension cords if you have a power source and charge batteries. Buy one of those kits that brings like 4-5 tools. Rigid, DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee are all decent brands. Youíll get what you pay for mostly. Grinders, drills, wrecking/crowbars, drill bit set, cutting/grinding discs, flap wheels, hammers (ball peen/carpenter doesnít really matter), and a socket set to remove nuts and bolts you might come across and have to reuse or canít hit with the grinder.

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Respirator/facemasks to protect your lungs! SAFETY GOGGLES! There will be sparks, debris and sh&t flying when you get to work. EAR PROTECTION!! Unless you want to be deaf one day. GLOVES! Protect your hands and fingers.

Thatís more or less what I used at first. Youíll have to buy onsey twosies later in the project. Good luck! Have fun!
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