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Old 09-26-2016, 05:12 PM   #11
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I'd take it for a couple hundred bucks, if for no other reason to cannibalize for spare parts.

it must run and drive, I doubt the guy wouldve towed it where it is...

let me know if you talk to him and want me to look at it.. I'll be back in florida in a few days and its literally blocks from where i keep my Carpenter.

-Christopher
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Old 09-26-2016, 05:36 PM   #12
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From what I've been told about the 9L engine, true, they have become a rare breed, but as long as they are not run hot, not pushed too hard and oil is changed regularly, they can run a long time. True, they have a reputation as "boat anchors", but from all the research I've done, most of these stories involve vehicles that have been pushed way beyond what the engine was designed for. Even when being sold new, many dealers were instructed not to sell these engines for medium or heavy use. International knew the limits of the engine. Used in a bus (as long as it's not in a hilly area) they will serve well. Put one in a tandem axle dump truck and run it up some hills, and it's not going to pull well (and probably not last long, either). My dealer friend told me of a fellow that had a pair of 'em, ran 'em for many years with no trouble. He was known to take care of his vehicles and not push 'em to their limits. He finally retired and had some younger fellow start driving in his place. One of the trucks soon suffered some sort of catastrophic failure (I forget what), showing many hundreds of thousands of miles. The other truck was pressed into service and soon began blowing head gaskets. It was determined this driver had figured out how to turn up the max RPM's on the engine and was pushing it too hard.

My mechanic friend (from who I bought the bus) tells me that in all his years, the only work he has ever done on a 9L is replacing a water pump.
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:33 PM   #13
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I think its like a lot of things diesel... diesels love to just hum away forever in the middle of their range somewhere... not redlined hour after hour, not on real short start / stop where they never warm up, or run too hot, and not with dirty oil( esp with the newer 'E' variants that use engine oil pressure as hydraulics for the injection).

theres people out there with mechanical DT-466s that blew up at 80,000 miles.. and theres peiople out there with 250k plus on a ford 6.0..

I do think that some of the over-heating conditions wemay readabout on the forums are because in school service the bus isbeing run in a whole different pattern than it is when it becomes a converted RV.. so faulty parts that were never known as faulty in stop n go situations show their faults when you load up the bus and trek at constant highway speed for hours...

and then there are those that are running the bus at the redline for hours.. technically the governor should be set to limit it to a safe RPM.. but if that has gone out of adjustment on a mechanical motor.. someone who doesnt knows diesels, buys it and everyone says"it wont let you over-rev it".. so they take off in their DT-466 foot to the floor at 3000 RPM.. not knowing any better.. and it gets hot.. or a rod bearing washes out..

education and moderation probabkly save a lot of engines...

-Christopher
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:54 PM   #14
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I didn't hear anything this am, so assume you got the rental returned, and are most likely on I-10, headed East. If not I hope you got to meet up with some other locals here. Enjoyed meeting you and your bird. Looks like you got a good one. Let us know how everything goes, on your trip home.

Safe travels, home
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