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Old 08-26-2009, 10:01 AM   #11
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Re: Looking for a crown bus

I know people have mentioned that Crowns do not have a lot of under storage due to engine placement. How much storage is there? Is there at least some storage?
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:13 PM   #12
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Re: Looking for a crown bus

I wouldn't need a ton of storage, but some storage would be nice for youth life jackets and people's coolers, etc. I just wanted to make sure there was at least some storage. Wow, the great bendy beast sounds very interesting. I used to operate some big scrapers/earthmovers, and those are articulated...pretty fun to drive! I will ask him about it.
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Old 08-27-2009, 05:26 PM   #13
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Re: Looking for a crown bus

I go rafting at least once a year if not more in West Virginia. They use old retired school buses painted in their colors and beat them senseless. They say the most injuries they get are from chipped teeth when drinking while trying to navigate those goat paths they call roads.

They dont have under belly storage on any of them. They just throw life jackets, paddles, and coolers in the rear-most seats on the bus and load the gear from the back.
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:11 PM   #14
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Re: Looking for a crown bus

Luckily 97% of the roads I will be on are paved. The rest is gravel that is good shape. I was thinking about taking out the back row or two of seats for tubes, life jackets, etc. I will also have a trailer with my truck though too.

Another question...what are people's thoughts between a Cummins 220 10-speed and a Cummins 250 5-speed?

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Old 08-30-2009, 11:13 AM   #15
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Re: Looking for a crown bus

Ok guys, one just popped up at a good price. What are your thoughts about a Detroit Deisel versus a Cummins? Both are in the same location, but one is about 7 years newer and $1100 cheaper. Let me know your thoughts.
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:58 PM   #16
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Re: Looking for a crown bus

They both are good. Detroits are noisy and known for leaking. If they both run good, I think Id be more worried about everything else on the bus, tires, brakes etc. Transmission is important to. The 10sp is nice but may find it harder to put random people in it that know how to drive them if youre not doing it all yourself. If someone cant shift it right and miss a gear coming down a mountain they could get into alot of trouble. The 5 sp might also be unsynchronized, for lack of a better term, and have the same issue but Im not sure on the Crowns.
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:13 AM   #17
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Thanks Kamoo, I really appreciate it. I am leaning more towards the Cummins. It is a little more expensive, but the whole bus appears to be in good shape.
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:04 AM   #18
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Re: Looking for a crown bus

Well, I ended up getting the tandem axle 40' bus. Even though I could have gone with the 35' bus, I still liked the look of the tandem axle better. Now I just need to figure out a way to get my CDL and go pick it up in Fresno and road trip back to Omaha. Does anyone know what the GVWR is for a 40' tandem axle Crown bus is?
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:31 PM   #19
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36 on a true tandem and 12 on steer? 48k? CA is different though
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:28 PM   #20
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I think you sent me a PM but it isnt showing up for some reason. To clarify my guestimate, you are allowed a certain amount of weight per axle which is also dependent on the number of tires on that axle as well as their size . Other things come into play especially CA like axle spacings etc. That is why you see long dump trucks with a million mini wheels under them and the transfer setups too (I think) because to haul the weight you have to have that long spread. I would guess CA only allows 12k lbs on the steer axle no matter what tire size you have since most of the dump trucks out there dont run floats and 36k lbs is pretty standard on the tandem set for a total of 48k lbs for your setup. I believe the Crowns have an actual tandem drive and not a tag axle like charter busses which would drop your max allowed gross down.
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