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Old 02-18-2018, 08:02 AM   #1
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Need Advice: looking at a 2000 Thomas Saf-T Liner

I'm looking at a bus that is already beautifully converted and has all the equipment we want. But also quite the price tag. I could definetly use some advice on if it's worth it. Here's some details:

2000 Thomas Saf-T Liner Diesel
14xxxxmiles
Cummins 5.9L
No info on the (auto) transmission
Running, no problems mentioned.

Converted inc. composting toilet, solar set up, all around insulation and wood finish, fully equipped kitchen.

They're asking 30.000$

What do you think?
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:46 AM   #2
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Welcome,

It's very difficult to gauge value with the amount of information you provided.

I will say that, in my humble opinion, for $30k it would have to be a stellar conversion in excellent condition.

Give us more detail and we will help as we can.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:29 AM   #3
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Really not enough info here, I agree. Im getting ready to list mine for sale in the coming days and will be asking a little than 30k more for mine.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:08 AM   #4
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Really not enough info here, I agree. Im getting ready to list mine for sale in the coming days and will be asking a little than 30k more for mine.
A little what? Trying to sell something without pics is a waste of time.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:11 AM   #5
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For Sale - 1992 Safe-T-Liner Skoolie - School Bus Conversion Resources

Thats why I posted a video

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Old 02-18-2018, 10:15 AM   #6
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I just re-read my original post. Reads like mine would be selling for close to $60k, sorry for the confusion.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:34 AM   #7
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I have just contacted the seller for more photos and information. There's not much in the ad.

Let me phrase my question differently: For this make/model, engine and mileage, what would it need to be worth 30k?
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:43 AM   #8
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Okay

The basic bus, before conversion, could run anywhere from 5-15k. Thats your starting point.

Now the costs from there can be kept to a bare bones minimum to create a livable space for maybe an additional 10k

Or you could go hog wild and blow through 100k in relatively short order.

The pictures you have requested should go a long way in helping to understand the true "value" of the offered bus. Fit, finish and systems.

Hopefully the seller can provide you with some level of detail as to the systems that do not show through in pictures. Electrical, plumbing etc...

I would be glad to give you more help as more info comes in. This can be a wonderful experience for you, but it helps to know what to look for before you buy.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:43 AM   #9
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I have just contacted the seller for more photos and information. There's not much in the ad.

Let me phrase my question differently: For this make/model, engine and mileage, what would it need to be worth 30k?
For me it would need:

Extremely desirable drive train in excellent condition.

Near new tires.

Top notch quality conversion.

Layout and equipment that suits my lifestyle.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:50 AM   #10
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So if you take the average Class A RV, secondhand but in decent condition with a few miles on it.

If you look at the prices you are anywhere between $75 and $150k.

Halve that because not everyone wants a converted bus, but those who do appreciate the benefits and we are at $35-$75k.

A bus in good running order, well-maintain with most of the desirable features costs from $4k to $10k (Mine was $4k).

Add in $20k as the cost of the conversion. That's a good conversion, done well, fully insulated and built out nicely and you are at between $24 and $30k

So the better Skoolie conversions are going to be priced at around $25 and $45k, and be well worth the money.

Poor conversions are worth no more than the base price of the bus, plus a bit for any reusable high-cost items, mainly because it all has to come out to do it properly.

If you spend $45k on a well thought-out and implemented conversion, you are saving around $60k on the price of a decent Class A.

If you do it yourself you get a custom RV for a fraction of the cost ... It's no wonder the "posh" RV Parks don't want us. We are a permanent reminder of what they could have had
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Old 02-18-2018, 01:46 PM   #11
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last week i bought a 27' Thomas saftliner at auction. Here is the specs incase you want to know a baseline:
1,500 - out the door price(tax to be payed at DMV)
2000 - year
97,000 - miles
white - color
some minor fixable rust
rv style windows(it was a senior citizen bus)
good front tires
rear tires need to be replaced
ran and drove great on the way home

...now time to build. sky is the limit on quality of build out.
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Old 02-18-2018, 02:26 PM   #12
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Bbus prices are all over the map. If you have more specific requirements, you can expect to pay more as you've limited your selection and can't jump on any old bus that comes along. If you don't have some specific type you're looking for, great deals pop up fairly regularly.

For a pre-converted bus, that's a tough one. You're buying someone else's opinion of how a bus should be built, and in my mind if they felt they did a good job they would be keeping it not selling it. 30k is about what it cost for me to buy my bus, build it, spend a year driving around the country, and buy a bigger bus when I got back.
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Old 02-18-2018, 02:56 PM   #13
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Thank youa ll for your input, that was once again very helpful! I'll keep you posted on our decision
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:01 PM   #14
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I didn't hear a clear NO in the bunch.

Value is highly subjective. The basic bus like you're looking at can be had for $3k to$5k. Insulation is probably worth a couple thousand. It's hard to put a value on other parts of the work already done on that bus.

I'll say this, most of us don't have $30k in our buses when they are completed. Completely converted buses often sell for $20k. Paying more doesn't mean you'd be any more secure with that bus.

Yeah ok, I said the same thing as everybody else but I included an emphatic NO.
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:44 AM   #15
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I have just contacted the seller for more photos and information. There's not much in the ad.

Let me phrase my question differently: For this make/model, engine and mileage, what would it need to be worth 30k?
27k in gold bullion.

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I would also accept 2.7 bitcoin.
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Hah yep.

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