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Old 04-24-2016, 09:37 PM   #341
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You know, most of us are already on bus overload with our own conversion. I wonder if there's a way we could help noobs find buses in their specific areas, say by zip code or something not to personal. We find buses where they are and hopefully a noob will pick up on them, by hit or miss. It just seems that a lot of people come here and they're really looking for help to get a nice bus the first time. Someone with an idea of how to make this work speak up.
its tough unless someone wants to maintain a guide of sorts.. since busses arent for sale forever, someone coming along is likely to want to see busses for sale now.. maybe this thread gets started new each week.. people can go through old weeks if they want but wont be reading 100 pages of thread only to find 80% of the busses are sold already...
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:08 PM   #342
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Excellent point.
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:00 AM   #343
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:26 AM   #344
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I like on the Gilllig description it says "All windows operate", like that's a deal breaker for such an old bus.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:33 AM   #345
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The MASH bus was converted in the '70s. Cute, but how much shag carpet will have to be removed? Kind of a generous price considering it hasn't run for how long? Good tires that are probably timed out?

The Gillig looks nice but I wish they had bothered to take a couple interior shots.
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Old 04-28-2016, 11:21 AM   #346
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The MASH bus was converted in the '70s. Cute, but how much shag carpet will have to be removed? Kind of a generous price considering it hasn't run for how long? Good tires that are probably timed out?

The Gillig looks nice but I wish they had bothered to take a couple interior shots.
I see you've come around on the tire age issue. That's great.
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:11 PM   #347
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That's exactly my point CB. As explained earlier I am the guy with the brand new set of Toyo's, and that was long before you ever brought up the issue of aging tires to me. You're preaching to the quire, but it's appreciated in the sense of safety.
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Old 04-28-2016, 02:30 PM   #348
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I'm pretty sure I'll still be driving on these same tires in 10 or even 15 years, if not longer. When they need to be changed, by becoming unsafe, I'll change them.
They time out in around eight-10 years.
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Old 04-28-2016, 02:42 PM   #349
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They time out in around eight-10 years.

time out purely by calendar?? or time out as in they may not have a lot of miles but have become unsafe by caracking, rotting, etc??

do you really throw a tire out because its just "old" or only when it shows signs of damage?

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Old 04-28-2016, 02:47 PM   #350
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Ok CB, I did hear you the first time. I do appreciate the information and your interest in my safety.
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:08 PM   #351
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What do you guys think? I presume since this is not a school bus, that the body is fiberglass? Maybe a little pricey?
1998 BLUEBIRD BUS EXCELLENT CONDITION CUMMINS DEISEL

And this? i kind of like the side window AC unit idea
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:14 PM   #352
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What do you guys think? I presume since this is not a school bus, that the body is fiberglass? Maybe a little pricey?
1998 BLUEBIRD BUS EXCELLENT CONDITION CUMMINS DEISEL

And this? i kind of like the side window AC unit idea
https://treasure.craigslist.org/rvs/5549113152.html
that first one looks to be in good shape!


the second one was called mini-birds..
definitely was a school bus
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:38 PM   #353
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In comparison, last October my '97 Bluebird TC1000 was $2,600 with 167K on it.

This first one appears to be basically the same as my current 26'r, but with the city bus setup and windows. I like white buses and that looks good from what I can see. It also looks like someone is trying to double their investment in the bus or maybe it's a dealer. I'd love to have it but that's too rich for my blood.

That second one; Can you imagine all the hours that went into detailing that paint job? That body style reminds me of Grumman vans, only with windows and seats. Something like that would make a good spare bedroom for when family visits, especially if it was free.

You're not finding anything on Public Surplus?
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that first one looks to be in good shape!


the second one was called mini-birds..
definitely was a school bus
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In comparison, last October my '97 Bluebird TC1000 was $2,600 with 167K on it.

This first one appears to be basically the same as my current 26'r, but with the city bus setup and windows. I like white buses and that looks good from what I can see. It also looks like someone is trying to double their investment in the bus or maybe it's a dealer. I'd love to have it but that's too rich for my blood.

That second one; Can you imagine all the hours that went into detailing that paint job? That body style reminds me of Grumman vans, only with windows and seats. Something like that would make a good spare bedroom for when family visits, especially if it was free.

You're not finding anything on Public Surplus?
The $$$ of the 1st one was what jumped at me, too...but i do like the style and color.

2nd bus..i'm starting to like that body style! i see these a lot in MDC, probably because roadways are too narrow for larger busses!

Nothing interested me on public surplus from FL...passing time viewing entries from other states...yearning to work on mine...
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:54 PM   #355
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time out purely by calendar?? or time out as in they may not have a lot of miles but have become unsafe by caracking, rotting, etc??

do you really throw a tire out because its just "old" or only when it shows signs of damage?

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On something like a bus, the date codes on your tires become much more important than a car.

http://www.cbs46.com/story/27175273/...hool-bus-tires

adding weight to a bus doesn't help things any.
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:27 PM   #356
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On something like a bus, the date codes on your tires become much more important than a car.

CBS46 investigates the age of school bus tires - CBS46 News

adding weight to a bus doesn't help things any.
the ionly reason I ask is because usually as a tire ages physical and visible signs will shoew that the tire is getting unsafe...

the steel belts arent goingto rust encased in rubber.. thoiugh they might if there are deep cracks in the tire and the belts show - visible aging..

my last bus the tires were old but showed no signs of cracking or dry rotting because IO kept them treated and the bus was stored indoors away from the harmful UV that often is the demise of rubber...

are you saying there was likely hidden non visible aging to my tire that caused it to be unsafe ? they were past their code but looked and drove like new...

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If you're being inspected under the school bus rules, the requirements are considerably more stringent than the general public is used to. Generally speaking these truck tires are quite high quality and we sure aren't going to use them like a trucker would. The will very likely age out before we're even half way through them. It's a fact.
I have driven farm trucks with heavy loads on old cracked tires that were visibly way beyond their years of service. It was low speeds but hauling large loads. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't been there.
Point is if my tires are timed out and I still have 80% of the tread remaining and no apparent visible damage, I plan to continue using those tires. The tire shops are not shy about telling you when you need to get new tires, or when you can use them beyond the normal life if they are still in good condition. Perhaps I will get two new steer tires and continue running the older tires on the rear. I don't know yet. Check back in 8 years.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:42 PM   #358
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time out purely by calendar?? or time out as in they may not have a lot of miles but have become unsafe by caracking, rotting, etc??

do you really throw a tire out because its just "old" or only when it shows signs of damage?

-Christopher
I believe commercial tires are replaced based on age and not wear. I mean, semi's get new ones every few years due to mileage. Are you going to put 300,000 miles on your bus in 8 years? I'd be lucky to get 150,000 and I drive across country 4 times a year.

Of course you did say you had a shortie, which your tires may be smaller than the ones on my hog. I have 11R 22.5's.
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Please don't make me drive the tires off this bus.

I think I'd be lucky to get 30 or 40K on these, then I'll time out.
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